Talk:Tom Jones (singer)

Blue-eyed soul

Tom Jones has always been considered a blue-eyed soul singer for many decades, especially during his early career. In the 60s many that heard him on the radio assumed he was a black singer. Tropiwikian 22:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OBE Does Not Confer Knighthood

If Tom Jones is "only" an OBE, he cannot be referred to as Sir Tom Jones. Only the two highest ranks (CBE KCBE) entail admission into knighthood. Tom Jones is only an Officer of the British Empire, and therefore there is not "Sir" attached to his name. user:ber06122 17:04, 8 March 2006 (EST)

Being an OBE doesn't make one a Knight, but being a Knight Bachelor does. (And the two highest ranks in the Order are KBE and GBE, not CBE and KCBE, the former of which is the third highest rank and the latter of which doesn't exist.) Proteus (Talk) 22:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, you're right about the ranks. But the point is the same isn't it. We shouldn't be referring to him as "Sir Tom", right? I didn't want to change it without some sort of greater input. user:ber06122 17:48, 8 March 2006 (EST)

Tom Jones was awarded a Knighthood in the in the New Years Honours List this year. The investiture takes place at Buckingham Palace on 29th March 2006 - so maybe he should not officially be called 'Sir Tom' until then. He was awarded an OBE in 1999.

They'll knight anyone these days. If we're down to Tom this year, my goodness, in the next year or two or so, we'll end up knighting people like Jim Davidson. It's a tragedy!!

WHAT'S THE HULLABALOO ALL ABOUT?

Why is there a debate about "NON POV" ? What, is "strong and powerful voice" too subjective for the wikistewards? The guy's voice is amazing! I came to this Wiki because I knew Tom Jones sang Thunderball, and I learned that he was only 25 when he recorded it. Now that is amazing (and about racism, down below: that retort is hilarious). 128.119.236.34 04:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I second that. We're becoming overly sensitive. -Elp gr 14:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WRT Mr. Jones' career slumping in the forties and fifties, how can that be if he was only born in 1940 and didn't rise to fame until the sixties? Maybe what was meant was seventies and eighties? Nohat 17:33, 2003 Sep 12 (UTC)

"During his forties and fifties" i.e. the 80s and 90s. Arwel 13:43, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)

In 1988, British heavy metal magazine Kerrang! ran a hoax story that Jones was joining heavy metal pioneers Black Sabbath. There was never any truth to this, but Sabbath leader Tony Iommi said that he would have liked to have had Jones sing on his 2000 eponymous solo album. Hmmmm. --MarshallStack 04:25, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Jones middle name

Can anyone confirm Tom's middle name? I thought it was John, and plenty of web pages confirm that, but equally many have 'Jones' - but Jones as a middle name (rather than hyphenated last name) seems a little unlikely. Varitek 07:38, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It's not unusual (sorry got the pun) in Wales for people to have their mother's maiden surname as their second forename. My mother's middle name is Jones, too. I first heard his full name was "Thomas Jones Woodward" back in the '60s. -- Arwel 13:26, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Singles

His discography seems only to list his UK hits, probably needs a bit of work done to include non-charting singles. I have a few sources for these, so I will get onto it shortly. Bonalaw 09:47, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I think that he may have done a single with Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies called "Little Green Bag"

Racism

On the Kumars at No. 42, Tom Jones said that because of his curly hair, he was mistaken for an African American while in the United States and discriminated against. Fkh82 23:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

what does this have to do with anything? Is there a citation? Do you mean to imply that Jones is racist? Srcastic 00:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I don't know how that would make Jones a racist. Maybe you should read the sentence again slowly and try to understand it first Fkh82 20:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification - you didn't mean to imply Jones is a racist. I go back to my first point - what does this have to do with anything - it seems like a non-sequitur. Srcastic 06:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Seems blindingly obvious to anyone who can read that he/she wasn't trying to imply that Tom Jones is racist. As to what it has to do with anything - it seems to me to be an interesting anecdote about Tom Jones who is the subject of the article. Do you understand what a non-sequitur is? TurnerPrize 14:24, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My interpretations: Tom Jones was merely pointing out the prejudices that existed in the American society; even if you "looked or had features" that were associated with African Americans, you too were discriminated against. - QzDaddy 14:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tom has also stated in numerous interviews that when his first single hit the airwaves, people mistook him for being a black singer because of his voice. But this didn't have anything at all to do with prejudices, only that they said he sounded black. Tropiwikian 00:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient joke

"Doctor doctor, I feel like Tom Jones!" "It's not unusual!" Kid Apathy 17:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Or better still. "Doctor Doctor i keep singing Tom Jones Hits", "Ah, you're suffering from Tom Jones Fever". "Oh, Is it rare?", "Well, it's not unusual!"

God bless him

Rest his soul, now he can rest in peace. 70.177.90.238 02:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't dead, idiot.

True, but he killed the music scene a heck of a long time ago!

Romany?

I have seen it claimed in the past that Tom is part-Romany. I have not seen a reliable source for this, but his complexion suggests that it is possible, I suppose. Does anyone have any more information on the claim?

Knight Bachelor

My understanding is that conferral of a Knighthood Bachelor does not entitle the holder to a post-nominal except in cases of potential ambiguity, therefore this reference ought to be omitted. --Ross UK 21:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean this ref next to his name: Kt? This item is frequently submitted and omitted. Does it belong there or not? 65.3.230.241 16:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Carlton Dance

Someone should mention the Carleton Dance off of the Fresh Prince of Bel-air.

cwmtillary

I assume this is a misspelling of a town(paragraph 3 music career) but I don't know the correct spelling BauerPower 19:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

this is the correct spelling. It comes up in Google as a valid place name in Wales. Rossrs 20:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks BauerPower 23:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Silly tidbits:

An impersonator appeared on a Summer 2005 episode of Clean Sweep. I hope Tom himself caught it.

At the end of each episode of his variery show, he was said to have announced: "Gwyn eich byd a dymunaf i chwi lawenydd bob amser." Meaning, "May you always be well and be happy."

Oh, he couldn't possibly have killed the music scene. It's still around.

Yeah but a lot worse because he's in it 66.66.161.1 20:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

discography

This section is fairly extensive. does anyone think it should it be moved to a separate article? riana 18:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree... Seanna 17:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

I don't doubt that someone could not know Tom Jones but a photo of his would be nice