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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Proton44 (talk | contribs) at 21:13, 10 October 2004. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Aza Raskin has just been speedily deleted. Not only was it at the wrong page name (lower case surname) it does not strike me that someone who maintains a website is notable enough for an encyclopedia. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 12:35, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • ISSUE: delete page- "Aza Raskin"

ORIGINAL text to Graham follows: Please do not bite the newcomers and AssumeGoodFaith Thank you Sir for sharing your opinion with me. However, I will argue with you firstly, in the words of a very successful statesman, "Without investigation, no right to speak!" Enough said for some, never enough for others.

In future, may I suggest that you exercise some measure of civil discourse prior to such hasty action. The page, which you have deleted, was a work-in-progress. I doubt very seriously that many people would consider Mr. Raskin's project with such disdain as you have just shown. In fact, THE project referred to is of major importance to the global community.

In future, please be courteous enough to at least make a pretense of being civil by enjoying a minimum of exchange with the writer, PRIOR to inflicting your abusive manner on anyone.

It is irrelevant whether or not the page was formatted correctly or if you agree with its content, it is the manner in which you choose to address the issue, which I am objecting to.

Please replace the page Aza Raskin with the following content (immediately below) at your earliest possible convenience and after having done so, we may pursue and conclude a conversation, at which time, if we are both in agreement, you may then delete or add-to the page, as the case may be.


The Humane Environment or also know as "THE"

Aza is a core member of a project called The Humane Environment; The website supporting it is designed and maintained by Galen Panger and Aza Raskin. Mr. Raskin is THE son of Jef Raskin, original creator of the Apple Macintosh interface.

More information about Aza and THE can be found at http://humane.sourceforge.net/home/index.html


Kindly advise me when you have replaced the page. I am in Japan +9GMT and will be away for the weekend. Please accept my appolgies if you find this offensive in any way. It is not my intention to create estrangement, but I do believe apologies are in order. If I am mistaken in my assertions, let me be the first to apologize- in advance. But do, please put the page back up until we have a chance to discuss it next week. It neither harms or offends anyone in the meanwhile.

In closing, please be advised that Mr. Raskin is unaware of my posting. This was a preliminary link to a complex thread of postings for a work in progress. It is not neccessary for people to be ancient, well known, famous, dead or otherwise to be of significance to the global community.

Thanking you in advance for your imedaite attention.

With my sincere best regards, --Proton44 16:50, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC) ENDS