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Antonia Gerena Rivera

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Non-notable supercentenarian. Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage in reliable sources. The little information in this article (her name, age and country) is already present in at least six "list of" longevity articles. According to the WP:WOP (World's Oldest Person) Wikiproject, she also fails WP:ONEEVENT as she is only notable for her longevity. Living to a certain age doesn't make someone notable. CommanderLinx (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Absolutely no claims to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete She does not have "absolutely no claims to notability" as stated above, as she is the oldest female ever born in Puerto Rico and one of the top 40 oldest people ever. However, there has been absolutely no coverage of her in the media and thus, there is little point in her having her own article which only states things that are already included in other articles. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 14:05 (UTC)
  • Keep Antonia Gerena is the oldest woman ever from Puerto Rico. She is also the oldest person ever to have lived in the state of Florida. Living to a certain age definitely garners you notability. How many appearances you make in the media does not define how notable you are. Antonia is mentioned in several reliable sources, the GRG is one of them. 930310 (talk) 18:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Puerto Rico-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Antonia Gerena Rivera is very notable person. Not only she is the oldest woman ever, who has ever been born on Puerto Rico, but also she is the oldest person, who has ever lived in Florida. The longevity recordholder of Florida. What is more, she was one of the last surviving people born in the XIXth century on Earth as well as one of the few, who have reached beyond 115 years of age. What is the most important, her age has been successfully verified by an international scientific organization, which is the Gerontology Research Group. She has also been mentioned among the 10 oldest living people by the Guiness World Records. GRG itself is the world's biggest authority in the field of extreme longevity tracking. The recognition of the GWR confirms the notability of Mrs. Antonia Gerena Rivera. The newspaper reports, articles, can't serve here as good sources, because of many mistakes, which have been made in the past by journalists in this field of science. However, here it's not the case, because Mrs. Antonia Gerena Rivera has been recognized by both the GRG and the GWR. The article should be kept, because it considers one of the most remarkable people ever and also it serves as the source of knowledge for the society, on how long can the people truly live.Waenceslaus (talk) 19:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Let me make it clear that my concern here is only the lack of content, not her notability. She is one of just 37 people to verifiably live to the age of 115. She was in the top 5 oldest living people at the time of her death. She is the oldest female ever born in Puerto Rico, and the oldest person ever to die in Florida. Her age is recognised by The Gerontology Research Group and Guinness World Records. Notability is established through reliable sources, but these do not necessarily have to be news outlets. The GRG is a scientific organisation and far more reliable than news sources, who report ridiculous claims like a "160 year old man". The WP:ONEEVENT envisioned someone on the street interviewed about a fire or traffic accident and that interview being published in multiple reliable sources. The "one event" guideline doesn't apply here because the article is about the person herself, not a witness to one event. If any news reports containing biographical information come out, then I would hastily change my vote. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 22:14 (UTC)

KEEP - Mrs Rivera is one of only 37 persons ever to reach age 115. She is also he oldest woman ever from Puerto Rico and will hold his record probably for some years given the age of other claimants from that country. In terms of sportsmen and women (among other categories or items we could consider) we keep significant records of persons whom have achieved far less than Mrs Rivera. For consistency purposes her claim to remain is far stronger than that for many other persons mentioned on Wikipedia. Chris Redman - redmancj@bigpond.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.128.102.6 (talk) 03:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP - She is the oldest person ever from Puerto Rico which makes her a notable women. 07:18, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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