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Pmc telecom

Hi Baj.

Pmc are one of the uks biggest telecoms companies. However there is limited citations available.

I want to create a wiki page which is useful and they are on loads of review sites etc, this can give people overall info on them.

I wanted to make it longer but could not do so with lack of references (I think )

any advice would be appreciated Steav88 (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Steav88, The lack of citations is the biggest obstacle. The welcome message on your talk page points you to the five pillars of wikipedia, of which notability is the one facing you. Without independent, reliable sources you're never going to be able to show notability. Review sites (along with their own website, facebook, twitter, and anything else self-published) aren't reliable. Bdaily, the source you used, and the only one I could find for them, looks like it just republishes companies' press releases, which makes it unreliable too.
Sometimes, no matter how hard you look, some topics just aren't notable. Happy editing Bazj (talk) 07:43, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Silkywoolmercenary

Hi Bazj,

As I'm sure you know, you marked the page I created, "Edgenuity Inc.," for speedy deletion; and as such, it was deleted. I read through the criteria and understand that the reason for this proposition is because the content seemed to be too "promotional."

Would you be able to help me in identifying certain specifics that caused this to be tagged as such? Was it the particular verbiage used, or rather the content that was being expanded upon (products/services)?

Thanks in advance,

Silkywoolmercenary (talk) 17:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Silkywoolmercenary, I'll assume the version of the article in your sandbox is a copy of the deleted article (it looks familiar, and like you, I can't see the published article any more). A quick glance throws up the following issues:
  • ® and ™ marks have no place on Wikipedia
  • The sources cited don't meet the requirement to be reliable and independent. Social websites like Google+ and sites that re-publish PR releases don't make the grade.
  • WebbAlign Depth of Knowledge (DOK) Partner... so what? WebbAlign doesn't have an article and a google search for it shows the sole piece of notability for them is that they gave an award to Edgenuity.
  • "Edgenuity’s published research and efficacy studies can be found here" is purely directing traffic to Edgenuity's website rather than informing the reader about the company.
  • "Edgenuity offers..." is promotional text. It's not awful, but it sets a promotional tone.
  • The layout with a separate paragraph for each product/service reads more like a sales brochure than an encyclopedic article.
  • "Edgenuity works with school districts and third-party research organizations to conduct evaluations that measure the impact of courses across grade levels and student populations. The results of these efficacy studies are used to guide product improvement efforts." - Um, they monitor and improve their products? Doesn't every company that produces stuff?
Hope that helps, Bazj (talk) 08:16, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bazj, this information really will help to draft a better article. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and help! Silkywoolmercenary (talk) 16:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #170

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Successful request for oversight rights: Sjoerddebruin
  • Events/Blogs/Press
    • Wikimedia UK is organizing a Wikidata training session. You can sign up here.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Talk pages on Wikidata can now be converted to use Flow. You can request migrating your talk page at d:Wikidata:Flow.
    • Mix-n-Match got a bunch of new catalogs for you to match up with Wikidata. Currently matching is happening at about 500 items per day. Pretty sweet :)
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    • Arbitrary access is rolling out to a large number of wikis over the next two weeks.
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    • Made some small changes to the style of the edit warning and sitelinks so they are easier to notice and understand
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    • Prepared for next rounds of arbitrary access rollout
    • Investigated growing lag of dispatching of changes to Wikipedia and co. We'll need to investigate further and change things so the lag between an edit on Wikidata and it being send to the Wikipedias and other projects is not too high.
    • Added the property ID to Special:ListProperties
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Bureau Veritas Consumer Products Services JackDan1 (talk) 03:56, 12 August 2015 (UTC)JackDan1

Bureau Veritas Consumer Products Services

Bureau Veritas Worldwide and Bureau veritas Consumer Products Services India are two entities with whole different business. I have read about both the companies on internet. Bureau Veritas deals with testing and inspection of all the products whereas Bureau Veritas Consumer Products Services India only deals with consumer products. Being a citizen of India , I have done business with BVCPS India and therefore I know there working is different from BV. I have reverted back redirect to " Parent " page because these are not same entities. If being a manufacturer of consumer products why do I look for the page of BV whole. I need a wiki page of BV consumer products division to know which consumer products they test , where their offices are present , where their labs are present and all. I recommend you to please fir understand the businesses or operations of both and then take a step. Bureau Veritas Consumer Products Services India need a different page.

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