Talk:Pimba
D'ZRT are definitely NOT a Pimba band - and their song "Pra Mim Tanto Me Faz" is NOT a copy of a japonese song: the music was bought from an international music data bank that sells songs to labels and artists (it would need a whole new entry to explain the undergoings of the music industry), just like the japanese singer did. D'ZRT are a fabricated pop-act born from a highly popular teen series ("Morangos com Açucar") - a bit like the The Monkees in the 60s. The members of the band, in real life, are two models, an actor and a singer. They started as a fiction band, but they were so successful that, eventually, they became a real band, with sold out shows all over the country (they even sold out two nights in a row in the biggest venue in Portugal, the Atlantic Pavillion, in Lisbon, where they performed for 35000 people). Yesterday (May 26, 2006), they opened the main stage of the Rock In Rio - Lisbon Festival. Also, Marco Paulo, Toni Carreira and others mentioned are NOT Pimba artists - they are popular/romantic artists. Pimba is a marginal sub-genre of the popular/romantic/folk music style, where everything is exagerated - whether in a comic or a romantic fashion. Pimba are Emanuel, Ágata, Micaela, Romana, Nel Monteiro - adored in small villages by older people in the portuguese interior, but seen as nothing more than laughable stock amongst the cultural elites. But even so, Emanuel, for instance, is a classically trained musician, a sought after producer and a very "marketing-aware" artist. Quim Barreiros is not exactly a pimba musician. He is a one of a kind artist, a mix of pimba melodies and comic lyrics, often exagerating even further the pimba themes. Finally, one the most important personalitties in the pimba and romantic scene is the very discrete Ricardo, author of numerous lyrics for dozens of pimba and romantic artists and the most important producer and composer of the genre. He started in a hard-rock band, in the 70s; he was part of another famous rock band in the 80s (TNT) and, in the 90s, his band even represented Portugal in the Eurovison contest... Anyway - pimba is not music to be taken serious. It's fun for the family. [RS, May 27, 2006]
The page needs Wikipedia-like formatting, and there are several inconsistencies that need to be adressed, like the D'ZRT entry or a more compreensive list of Pimba artists. --81.84.150.51 23:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
The list of artists could go further back in time and acknowledge those artists that were 'pimba' (avant la lettre) - before the term was coined, such as Marco Paulo. I'd say he deserves to be on this entry. A.L. April 16, 2006.
To be more precise, I also think that there are subcategories within the 'pimba' style: some are more romantic (Emanuel, Marco Paulo) while others oew their popularity to their vulgar lyrics (Kim Barreiros). A.L. April 16, 2006.
I also think that there are a bunch of names missing (and Quim Barreiros (this is the correct Portuguese spelling) is very important and also has been in business since like 30 years ago), but overall this article is quite precise. D'zrt can be considered a Pimba group although they don't quite qualify as a band,in my humble opinion. They just act as a band in the named soap opera and as far as it's known, none of the elements of that group have any skills in music or singing. I hope someone, a Pimba connoisseur maybe, can add the historic review of this deep and inspiring kind of music.
I don't agree with D'ZRT being considered a Pimba band. They are a crap pop act, but a pop act. Pimba music is very particular to folklore cheesiness while tasteless pop can be cheesy but it's still pop. L.P. May 2, 2006
This page is too partial... i think some parts sould be reviewed and changed. Wikipedia isn't supposed to contain social opinions about whatever what, it is supposed to only say the facts.
Ena Pá 2000 should not be on that list too. They are a "comedy" act, not anywhere near Pimba! I have to agree that this article is too partial!
Este artigo é definitivamente... pimba!
Pimba é isso mesmo. Parabéns pela análise (e pela síntese)
--- Ena pá 2000 isn't pimba... it's joke music... D'ZRT, aren't a proper pimba band, they are an awful pop band created and publicized by the tv series liste above (morangos com açucar)... they don't even know music, but their style isn't pimba (you can trust me, im portuguese and a musician.. not pimba).
Meus amigos: creio q a questão aqui não é dizer se o artigo é pimba ou não. A Wikipedia pretende ser uma enciclopédia online. Se queremos trazer uma colaboração realmente interessante, há que ser minimamente objectivo. Se há quem considere os X como pimba, ao passo que outros nao, independentemente da nossa opinião, nao deveriam ser incluídos, apenas pelo facto de haver quem ache que nao. Tb nao se deverão incluir nomes ou conceitos vindos de nenhures, como por exemplo começar um parágrafo a dizer q o grupo X NÃO é pimba, sobretudo qd esse grupo nem sequer tem um artigo q lhe seja dedicado. Uma coisa é uma enciclopédia, outra uma pág de discussão... Mais: se o artigo está escrito em inglês (e tb se o nao estivesse) é pq pretendemos q seja lido por pessoas nao portuguesas - há pois q explicar as coisas desde o início, sem partir do pressuposto de q as pessoas conhecem todo o contexto e envidar todos os esforços para q a nossa opinião pessoal nao transpareça, ou qd tal nao for possível q seja uma opinião fundamentada e desapaixonada (mas nao é esse o princípio por q se rege uma enciclopédia?!) Qualquer artigo merece um tratamento cuidado, por mais imerecedor que consideremos o assunto. Aliás, quanto mais nao seja pelo fenómeno cultural de massas que é (gostemos ou lamentemos tal facto...), a música pimba merece ser analisada Tb aconselharia um maior rigor ortográfico. Basta pôr o txt em Word e usar o spell check do dic. inglês. Também seria desejável mais cuidado na construção das frases, q deverão "soar genuinamente inglesas" e nao assemelhar-se a uma tradução medíocre do português (sugestão: procurar no google, usando de alguma subtileza, expressões semelhantes) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.84.62.165 (talk • contribs) 07:54, August 10, 2006 (UTC)
- Bom post! Tenho tentado intervir neste artigo apenas para evitar que descambe ainda mais, mas se quiseres tentar melhorá-lo, conta com a minha ajuda. Phelan 00:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)