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Tasmanian wolf

Richard Freeman (cryptozoologist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The thylacine is also known as the Tasmanian wolf. It is a stunning example of convergent evolution, a flash eating marsupial that resembles a wolf because it has evolved to fill the same ecological neich in Australasia. It is not convergent with a tiger or any kind of big cat. The name Tasmania tiger is simply alliteration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.55.115 (talk) 21:29, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And you're telling this why, exactly? General Ization Talk 00:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But since you've brought it up, see the article Thylacine for the explanation of why the name "Tasmanian tiger" is just as common as "tasmanian wolf" for this extinct marsupial. It has nothing to do with its genetics or evolution, nor with alliteration. You might consider spending as much time here reading as you do writing; it's amazing what you can learn this way. General Ization Talk 00:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And in fact, "... a recent study proposes that thylacine was more of an ambush predator as opposed to a pursuit predator. In fact, the predatory behaviour of the thylacine was probably closer to ambushing felids than to large pursuit canids. Consequently, at least in terms of the postcranial anatomy, the vernacular name of 'Tasmanian tiger' may be more apt than 'marsupial wolf'." General Ization Talk 00:57, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Imhotep

I'm addressing your message:

"...I noticed that you made a change to an article, Imhotep, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page...."

Yes, you have made a mistake. The source is Wikipedia and its sources. As you will notice, Wikipedia referred to Imhotep as an Egyptian polymath (when he would actually be Egyptian and a polymath because there were no "Egyptian polymath"). In truth, it would have made him the first polymath of record. See Imhotep. Imhotep polymath came before other noted polymaths by 3000 years. See Polymath. The polymath article seems racist now that I read it again. The whites like Galileo and da Vinci are "polymaths" while the Semites (which are white by today's standards) and Africans are distinctly different polymaths (i.e. Persian polymath or Egyptian Polymath). Id. Is there a standard based on geography? I see nothing that would one to that conclusion. We know the Greeks and Romans were educated in Egypt (and not the other way around), so chances are the polymath-ism would originate in Africa even the term has its origins outside of Africa. Id. Also, note, there are many non-cited statements in the Wikipedia pages, for instance, the original polymath statement about Imhotep, why was my contribution of particular interest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talkcontribs) 20:13, 24 December 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:Original research and WP:Synthesis. You have drawn a variety of inferences from a variety of sources, but you have not cited a single, reliable source that claims that Imhotep was the first polymath. We are not permitted to make inferences and state them as fact here, nor to state our own opinions; all claims stated here must be supported by reliable sources. As to why your edit was of interest while there may be other unsourced claims on Wikipedia, it was because you just made it and I just saw it. We do not justify the insertion of crap here because other crap exists, nor are we required to address all the other crap first. Also, please always sign your comments on any Talk page by typing four tildes (~~~~) after your comments. General Ization Talk 20:21, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if Egyptian and a polymath, Imhotep would have been an Egyptian polymath,[1] as stated (and note the cited source). General Ization Talk 20:26, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The Egyptian Building Mania". Ancientworlds.net. Archived from the original on June 14, 2011. Retrieved 2015-06-23.
I'm going to try a different approach in hopes that I can reach you because I think you are misunderstanding me. The citation for Imhotep (#2) does not refer to Imhotep as an "Egyptian polymath" (likely because it's not a thing). Imhotep is actually referred to as an "all-round polymath". The source does not overtly racialize or add ethnocentricity to Imhotep as a polymath. My objective with the changes was two parts: 1. based on the timeline, establish Imhotep as the first polymath in history (not Egyptian polymath); and, 2. remove the racial or ethnic component from the polymath because it is really not a thing. small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talkcontribs) 00:22, 26 December 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]
@Othelllo: I think you are seeing some sort of conspiracy where there is none. There is no "racial or ethnic component" to remove from the use of "Egyptian polymath" because it is not asserted in the article that "Egyptian polymath" is a "thing". The article asserts that Imhotep was Egyptian and a polymath, hence that Imhotep was an Egyptian polymath. It is a standard to include the nationality of the subject with an occupation or other adjective phrase that best describes the reason for their notability in the opening sentences of articles here. I can see no reason why this article should be any different. As to your first claim, you have still failed to supply any reliable source (blogs and fringe sites such as ancient.origins.com are not reliable) to support it, as another editor has already indicated by again reverting your insertion of it. You may believe and/or wish it to be true, but until you can provide some objective, reliable source to support it, it will not appear in the encyclopedia. General Ization Talk 03:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization: This is lunacy; it is no more a thing as a black professor or General Ization. Listen, the very cite calls Imhotep a "physican and all-round polymath" - why are you ignoring that point? Why not just refer to him as a "polymath" or "all-round polymath"? All-round is, I think, a British term, but still better than "Egyptian polymath". Also, you say it's a standard, then why isn't the standard applied to da Vinci and Galileo? I really hope you don't personalize this because this is really not a personal attack. unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talkcontribs) 10:19, 28 December 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]
@Othelllo: Apparently you haven't bothered to look:
Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci, more commonly Leonardo da Vinci ... was an Italian polymath ...
Galileo Galilei ... was an Italian astronomer, physicist, engineer, philosopher, and mathematician ...
Now please drop the stick. General Ization Talk 00:17, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization: Not on the Polymath page but ok. You win. Stick dropped. unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talkcontribs) 29:19, 28 December 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Lancaster Country Day School Controversy

Discussing the addition of a "controversy" section on the wikipedia page Lancaster Country Day School. Although the incident occurred in the past, it continues to have effects on the school today and continues to concern many parents. It is completely factual and is encyclopedic content. It could be relocated under "history", but it involves a notable change in leadership which belongs on wikipedia as a part of the school's history. The event caused mistrust between the Upper School and the administration/Board, which still permeates through the school today and contributes to the unrest caused by the expansion plan.

--Theburningringoffire (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Theburningringoffire: Please take the discussion to the article's Talk page, where other interested editors can participate, not to my Talk page. General Ization Talk 18:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to message

Here is the follow up with details to confirm the changes that were made and submitted to Wikipedia;

1. No Surrender MC is not a Gang but a Motorcycle Club; www.nosurrendersc.com & www.nosurrendermcnomads.com

2. Added locations; USA - https://www.facebook.com/no.surrender.mc.nomads/?ref=hl Lebanon - https://www.facebook.com/No-Surrender-MC-Lebanon-911582432265113/?fref=ts Australia - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010650610676&fref=ts United Kingdom - Page not available yet.

Lebanon #2 - http://www.crimesite.nl/no-surrender-opent-chapter-in-libanon/ USA #2 -http://www.crimesite.nl/no-surrender-opent-chapter-in-de-vs-video/

USA #3 -http://nosurrendermcnomads.com/

Please let me know if any other information is required and needed.

(Jdl6422 (talk) 03:55, 28 December 2015 (UTC))[reply]

@Jdl6422: This information is not needed on my Talk page but as citations (of published, reliable sources) accompanying the relevant content you added to the article. See WP:CITE. General Ization Talk 03:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jimbo Loving Troll

Thanks very much for cleaning up my Talk Page following a drunken editor employing his sock puppet, having a laugh. Ps. who on earth is 'graceful slick' :-) Twobells (talk) 15:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Twobells: You're welcome. I assume the reference is to TheGracefulSlick, but I don't know what event the IP was referring to. General Ization Talk 15:09, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It seems I may have been threatened, which is badge of honour as far as I am concerned, as it means certain recent edits have validity, best wishes and thanks again! Twobells (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About SPI report of S9000

You might want to add some other socks I list below. Names such as:

  1. Andrewman327 is a fat retard
  2. Eatdatpussy445 sucks
  3. Kudpung has a dick
  4. 74.131.36.145
  5. Jay Cutler is about to lose on Thursday
  6. Starship9000 and Andrewman327
  7. I'm sorry for your team's loss
  8. 74.131.177.233 (used in March 2013)
  9. I love Aaron Rodgers
Would you mind doing that for me if you make an edit. Regards, --2605:A000:7742:6D00:5930:8E73:8A61:920 (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the additional socks. I am going to make a comprehensive sock list, and I am considering getting a community ban in place. GABHello! 20:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lancaster Country Day School

Thanks for looking out for things that aren't newsworthy and that are too promotional on the Lancaster Country Day School page. I'm the communications director for the school. We think some students who are upset about renovation decisions are using the Wiki to vent and feel heard. I know that wiki editors have the final say and are good judges of content, so I'd like to point out for your consideration the sections "Renovation," "Demotion of Daphna" and "Campus." Do you think they are worthy of an encyclopedia entry on the school? DulceyA 12/28/15DulceyA (talk) 04:57, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Portadown College

These persons achieved great successes in our town on a global scale. I would ask you to stop editing our town's contributions. Articles of evidence and references were added but you deleted them. Ernestpem (talk) 16:00, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ernestpem: Read the information I posted on your talk page, and the articles linked within those notices. If you continue to insert these names in the article having been advised of these policies, your contributions will continue to be reverted and eventually you will be blocked from editing. General Ization Talk 16:03, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can clearly see they are notable persons!! What is the problem??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernestpem (talkcontribs) 16:18, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

You and I had an edit conflict reporting the same vandalism-only account. I discovered the account because they submitted a frivolous edit to AFC, and when a clearly frivolous edit is submitted to AFC, it is a good idea to check whether the editor is a vandal. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Timur Gareev (Timur Gareyev)

Sorry about trying to make changes without proper citation. I am not an editor, nor do I want to be;) since I have a conflict of interest and onlyy want credible and correct info out of respect to both Wikipedia and the subject, I hope some will take the time to make my suggested corrections. The info for Timur Gareev is 2 years outdated and incomplete. There are several references confirming correct spelling of his name, current peak rating and recent achievements. A simple google search will yield credible sources such as uscf, us chess championship and chessbase. A current photo is advised as the photo is several years old as well. And thank you for you many contrbutions to Wikipedia. I am a huge supporter of the site and appreciate all the time and effort involved in keeping Wikipedia a credible and reliable reference. Blindfoldking (talk) 01:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Ization!

(Unknown artist, Norway, 1916)

A cheeseburger for you!

Because your the most American person I know! GeniusMasterGeneral (talk) 19:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

citation needed regarding Japanese language

Hello,

I see you have reverted my edit to the page "Japanese language" because tag "citation needed" is template and should not be removed. You also stated that I did not provide edit summary.

As far as I know I have provided "summary" twice. See my following qoute.

1st time: It is impossible to prove something that does not exist by showing the nothing (evidence). It is burden of anyone who claims the existence of such relationship. Not the other way around.

2nd time: I have provided the reason in my edit summary saying that "the citation to (prove) the non-existence of relationship between the two languages" is not logical. There is no logical way of proving something that does not exit. The template has to be changed

Regarding the template, how could tag "citation needed" be a template (by that I assume it means mandatory) of a specific statement of the subject? I mean, how could this statement in the page "Japanese has no genetic relationship with Chinese" be specially required to citation?

I believe your role is a moderator or adminstrator, but not to be an authority of a specific subject, right? So I am not sure how would you decide this statement need a citation.

Last and most importantly, as I have said twice in my edit summary "how could one provide something to prove the NON existence of something"? It is only logical to request evidence to a claim of something that does exist. Therefor, how could that "citation" be required? What about every other sentence in the whole page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomadhund (talkcontribs) 00:04, 4 January 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

@Nomadhund: You provided no edit summary with your second or your third reverts. See my original edit summary here: "It is entirely possible to cite a reliable source to state that two languages are not genetically related, and if we make the statement it should be sourced." If the statement is indeed incapable of being sourced or proven, we should not be making it in the encyclopedia and it must be removed. Also see the warning on your Talk page, which clearly explains that you should not remove maintenance templates from articles unless the issue the template identifies is addressed. While you think it is a non-issue, at least two other editors (the editor who originally placed the template and me) think it has not, and your continued removal of the template after learning it is controversial represents edit warring and will result in a report at WP:AN3 if you continue. Please stop now. General Ization Talk 00:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, I did provide summary twice, I can not explain why you did not see them. Secondly regarding the article, as far as I know, please correct me if you have a source otherwise, there is no linguistic school that claims a genetic relationship between Japanese and Chinese, that is why I said providing a source to support a relation should not be required. As I see that, few minutes ago author "phoenix7777" just provided a source, I will leave it as such, otherwise I would have removed that sentence as you suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomadhund (talkcontribs) 00:30, 4 January 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

It is possible for an expert in a reliable, published source to say that "there is no linguistic school that claims a genetic relationship between Japanese and Chinese", and then for us to cite that statement. You or someone else having said it in the article here is not sufficient without a citation, which is why the {{citation needed}} template was added. General Ization Talk 00:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Team Foundation Server

Thanks for your response on the help desk question about the Team Foundation Server page. I want to clarify that the product name has not been changed. However, this product comes in 2 flavors - one that users install on their own infrastructure , called Team Foundation Server and the other that is hosted on Microsoft's infrastcruture, called Visual Studio Team Services. I work in this product's marketing group and what we want to do is lead using the latter product i.e. VSTS. Currently the article talks about TFS and says that it can also be used in the cloud as VSTS. We want to inverse this by talking about VSTS and saying that the product can be installed on your own infrastructure as TFS. Hope this makes it a little more clear. I know its a bit confusing.

Aupsy (talk) 20:53, 4 January 2016 (UTC)aupsy[reply]

@Aupsy: What Microsoft's product marketing group wants its customers to buy isn't Wikipedia's concern, and as a paid employee of Microsoft you should not be editing any article concerning Microsoft or its products or services here. See WP:COI. My best suggestion is the one I made at the Help Desk, now somewhat modified by your admission that you are a Microsoft employee: that you make the suggestion on the article's Talk page that someone (not you or your colleagues at Microsoft) create a new article on VSTS to replace the redirect I created. I stand by my position that the existing title of the article accurately reflects what the article describes, and should not be changed. General Ization Talk 21:01, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Matter Sent to Dispute Resolution

I have sent the matter to Dispute Resolution. No one anywhere has the right to say anything that want about anybody in print. Especially if it is not true. That is a violation of human rights. There is no translation of Sandor Verbovszki's book. If I am blocked I will challenge the block. Victim's of slander have rights in America and in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎190.150.36.88 (talkcontribs) 02:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very well. I have tried to help you. How do you say in Hungarian, "As you make your bed, so you must lie in it"? Good luck. General Ization Talk 02:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I beat you to reporting the legal threat. Sometimes we have an editor who doesn't understand how dispute resolution works, or that the boomerang may return. Thank you for trying to warn the editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Scum of the earth vandal.

Don't change my properly sourced edits you stupid prick