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Oneshotofwhiskey

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Please note that a case was originally opened under Dreaded hall monitor (talk · contribs) but has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Oneshotofwhiskey. Future cases should be placed under Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Oneshotofwhiskey.


27 November 2016

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Suspected sockpuppets

Sockpuppeteer Oneshotofwhiskey was indeffed as a result of his previous attempt to frame me, and it looks like he's at it again. IPs 71.218.129.181 and 174.16.214.83—purporting to be an impartial observer—reported IP 2604:3400:DC1:43:216:3EFF:FE6B:497F to an admin, claiming to be concerned that I was using the latter for "socking ... AND trying to use an anon IP to get around ... ARBAP2 Sanctions." The IPs proceeded to make a number of revealing comments about yours truly, including "TTAC ... is a long-time disruptive cunning member who will edit war when possible and exploit his experience on wikipedia to advance his POV"; "After closely reading the account summary on TTAC's page, it seems like that user views wikipedia in terms of opponents and gaming"; and "He's been getting away with edits on articles suggesting Obama is the 'founder of ISIS' and is politically jailing conservatives (all lies)" (that's for sure!). On his talk page, Oneshot engaged in strikingly similar rhetoric, referring to me as a "disruptive editor" with a penchant for "cunning but clearly transparent editwar tactic(s)." Moreover:

While I think the evidence above more than satisfies WP:DUCK, it would be interesting to confirm that the IP being "reported" is a likely match for the other two, and thus that I was in fact being framed from the beginning. (On the admin's talk page, the IPs hint at this possibility: "That would aid him in some attempt to game the system if he tried to boomerang a response into a charge of trying to frame him.")TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 00:47, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

The TL:DR quality of this - and especially the tone - scream suspicious on the part of TheTimesAreAChanging (talk).

The convoluted nature of it is misleading and belongs as a complaint on the noticeboard for administrators for - at best - long term IP abuse or block evasion and not as an SPI. Even then it is a flimsy accusation-->>> The purpose of using sockpuppets to evade scrutiny doesn't fit the fact pattern here as I'm not seeing much evidence of that and if the idea was to evade scrutiny then what scrutiny was the IP hoping to evade? The "accused" editor hasn't even edited any articles or weighed in on any debates involving content disputes. Even then it doesn't strike me as terribly disruptive if an anonymous editor was only asking an administrator for an opinion about an AE that involves TheTimesAreAChanging (talk).

For that reason, after reading the AE, I would be careful trusting TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) as he or she is currently being investigated in that AE: [9]: for exploiting his many years of experience editing to abuse the system.

TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) is accused for "serious breaches of policy" and "gaming wikipedia to advance edit wars." It is very possible he or she is exploiting SPIs in a similar vein to possibly deflect attention from his or her own bad behavior elsewhere: using his or her reputation and experience as an experienced editor as camouflage to get away with harassing members and disrupt articles under sanction. Rather than show contrition and take responsibility for what looks like a pretty straightforward violation of the discretionary page restrictions on political articles, he or she responded deceptively with this response. He or she accuses others of a "witch hunt" and "stalking him." The tired old argument that there is a conspiracy to frame an editor is almost always indicative of a guilty mindset when trying to shift blame elsewhere without evidence.

Unironically 2604:3400:DC1:43:216:3EFF:FE6B:497F is also very possibly TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) given the similarities of obsessions and edit histories and the all too convenient way it fits into this SPI. He only listed this IP in this SPI after being accused of socking here:[10] A few weeks ago when it came up he self-consciously and suspiciously convinced an administrator that this IP was NOT socking,[11][12][13] or OSOW. He conveniently forgot to include this here. Maybe this fits into a larger pattern of trying "to game wikipedia" by trying to flip the charge against his intended target. If so then we need to boomerang this SPI.

Recommend closing this SPI and filing an ANI if the anonymous editor engages in truly disruptive behavior. Then RPI where necessary.

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