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Feel free to leave a message here; I will reply on your talk page unless you request otherwise. Brendan Moody

Archive 1

ASOIAF pages discussion

Is ther eo article for House Frey?--AeomMai 23:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the freys however, played a rather large part of a storm of swords and a small role in the seige of riverrun in affc. they also represent a large amount of characters (over 100 frey knights!) It could benefit with an addition so i'll start the article and others can add as well.--AeomMai 22:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks i didnt realize the copyright infringement.--AeomMai 17:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have started a page for the Others. I've laid down some indfo, but its not enough, add what you can.--AeomMai 21:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Goodkind

Hi,

I'm the guy who edited the Terry Goodkind page. Don't know how to make my own user, don't really care. My issue is mostly with the choice to keep in the extended discussion and to take out the "Despite his claims to the contrary, Goodkind's works do fit with the conventions of the fantasy genre, most notably his use of magic, wizards and swords" statement.

>First of all, please don't simply remove other's comments from the talk page. Some consider it irritating, and it's really not necessary; when the page gets too long, it can be archived or refactored.

Sure, my bad. I don't know how to do it, and I don't really care to learn. But you can not tell me that all the back and forth between Mystar and everyone else is in any way relevant or useful. It's a bunch of personal attacks with virtually no reference to the article itself, or any reasoning behind the edits. The first time I tried to read it I ended up scrolling down through it looking for something interesting, and couldn't find it.

>As for your article edits, you're thinking in the right direction

Sarcastic thanks.

>but I do have concerns. It's a bit silly to remove the "bestselling author" mention, since he is one; a better source is necessary, and I'll add one shortly

Sure, but until you can find a better one, I think you're better off not having it. The author's personal webpage? That's not a source, that's propoganda.

>In the "Influence" section, the claim of preaching also needs a source; I'll tag it shortly. Again, I think Goodkind's own comments on his work are part of a good encyclopedic article on the man.

I think the kind of comments he makes are good for his personal webpage (which there is a link to, but it is not labelled as such - 2 links to the same content, with different urls?) but not here.

>It's not our responsibility to keep him from looking extreme, but to accurately reflect the verifiable facts about him. "Changed the face of fantasy" once more falls into the relevance of the author's opinions on the genesis and function of his work. Deleting his opinions is not good encyclopedic policy; they're as relevant to the article as any commentary.

By citing extreme opinions, we make him look extreme. And citing too many of his opinions turns it from a wikipedia entry into his personal webpage. I mean, 5/7 of the paragraphs that are there contain his opinions. It's great that he thinks highly of himself, but that's again for his webpage, not wiki.

>Your second paragraph about fitting conventions, while true, is not really our judgment to make, and smacks of POV. Brendan Moody 18:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? The defining feature of fantasy (as opposed to historical fiction) is the use of magic! Him having magic and saying it's not fantasy is INSANE. Every fiction book in the world (barring Mein Kampf, Chariots of the Gods and anything by Graham Hanckock) is about people. What makes fantasy fantasy is magic. There's fantasy without dragons, elves, dwarves, presumably without swords, fantasy within sci-fi, but magic is what makes fantasy fantasy. That's not my point of view - OK, I suppose it is, but I think it's justified.

Anyway, I think that the page is very biased, will continue to be so, and whoever does most of the editing (Mystar?) is way too close to TG to be doing anything except adding verifiable links and pictures. Talk about POV!

I hated his first book and haven't read any more by the way, but the article annoyed me. Read any Steven Erikson? That's good stuff. The US covers are atrocious, like nightmare bad, but excellent content. Except The Bonehunters, didn't like that one. Anwyay, I don't care enough to bother editing TG anymore. Have fun.

If you don't care about further editing to improve the quality of the article, then I see little purpose in replying at length. Brendan Moody 19:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be willing to be a participant in a Offical Mediation in regards to Mystar and the Terry Goodkind / Sword of Truth articles? NeoFreak 16:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your quick response! NeoFreak 16:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ASOIAF Wikiproject

I'm glad we're starting in on this wikiproject. I'm going to clean out most of the prepackaged setup unless you actually plan on filling all of that. I'm going to start to advertise a little as well. Do we have a pre-made invite that you know of?NeoFreak 05:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depending on where your going with this exactly, i looks like something id enjoy helping out with, is there somewhere that i sign up to be involved with the projct?--Cybroleach 20:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Aegon I Targaryen page is up for AfD. Plese weigh in. NeoFreak 11:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization?

I see that you removed my capitals for the "Tower of Joy" in the Eddard section; isn't it a proper name? It's also inconsitently spelt with upper case elsehwere in the article.Saralleine 21:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation Notice

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- Happy Editing, Runch 15:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cosby

Numerous sections are uncited in that article and yet you only remove the criticism section. Thus I have to assume you're acting politically. So I'm afraid we've got an unfortunate war going on here.

Brendan, did you want to respond to this?
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