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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 204.13.236.244 (talk) at 07:23, 14 September 2006 (Some ED info if you're curious). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

R.J. Grey

you betcha alex john

haha wow thats quite the thing, youd think for sure hed get expelled huh. those crazy preteens, always starting fires! boy, i'm old. i guess its been like 6-7 years since i went to rj grey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhwilliams (talk • contribs)

Request for feedback on Acton, MA article

I have done some extensive work on this article over the last month and would appreciate feedback on it. I would like this article to be a 'recommended article' for Wikiproject Massachusetts. Please put feedback on the Acton talk page so others can comment, too. Thank-you.

--LWV Roadrunner 12:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

atheism wikiproject

HI Alexjohnc3, I nabbed this nifty info box from the Digimon wikiproject, we could turn it into a good tool. Right now it has digimon stuff on it, but that can give us ideas, and help us out. Heres the template: [[1]]. If you could tell as many people as possible, that would be great. Perhaps we could replace the existing one at some point. Somerset219 08:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Grigori Perelman

Someone keeps removing the link I added a the BBC news story, but this and other recent stories state quite clearly that Perelman has indeed declined the award, so I am trying to remove the fact flag. ---CH 23:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Dramatica

Hi, I've noticed your dissatisfaction with the way the Encyclopedia Dramatica article was deleted, so I thought I'd let you know something I recently discovered. I was surprised to see that of the four AfDs[2] [3] [4] [5] and two DRVs[6] [7] concerning ED, there is never any mention of this article which was published in the British Sunday Magazine The Observer or this posting at the well known blog Kotaku. Both of these sources are generally considered reliable, and both are indexed by Google News and LexisNexis. That neither of these was ever mentioned by anyone in any of the reams of discussion generated by this controversy, I find amazing. Although I personally have not made up my mind as to whether the article merits inclusion, I thought it only fair to notify you of what appears to be a major oversight in the deletion process. Thank you, and please feel free to contact me here or on my talk page. --Nscheffey(T/C) 03:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Curious

Can you explain why you edited the userpage of User:Ronin.shinta, [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], and his talkpage? [14], [15]...I suppose he is your friend as you calim in that last diff. But it seem odd to say the least...[16], [17]. and after the kind of personal attacks I see coming from him [18], [19], I am hoping he is just your friend, and not simply another account of yours. It also seems odd that you showed up on my talkpage and then he did. Wikipedia is not a playground so be careful. Also, I'm done talking about Encyclopedia Dramatica...so I don't want to hear another word about it on my talk page, thanks.--MONGO 04:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, friends or not, remember that Wikipedia isn't a playground. I doubt that I could make you understand why the ED article was deleted, though I think I made myself clear. Have a good day at school.--MONGO 10:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The article wasn't verifiable, and that is policy. I told you I didn't want to hear about that website again on my talk page.--MONGO 19:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Last warning...you mention that website again on my talk page and I will block you.--MONGO 19:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you unable to read? The article wasn't verifiable...move on.--MONGO 19:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ask User:Nandesuka, who closed out the deletion on the article...maybe he will provided the evidence you claim I can't. There isn't anything else I can add so, best to ask elsewhere.--MONGO 19:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Stop bullying Alexjohnc3. He is my friend, and I will defend him whenever it is needed. Wikipedia regulations are not tools for you to harass people with opinions different from yours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronin.shinta (talk • contribs)
This was a discussion between MONGO and I. You don't have to do anything, but thanks I guess. --AlexJohnc3 (talk) 21:20, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

re: Encyclopedia Dramatica question

Hi.

I'm not sure how you found me, in your quest to determine the truth about the ED article, but I hope I can tell you what you need to know. It does, indeed, come down to those two policies: WP:V and WP:NOR. The basic problem is that there's no secondary source saying anything substantive about Encyclopedia Dramatica. The site simply hasn't been documented by independent writers. If we're going to apply the same standards to websites that we apply to other organizations, companies, individuals, etc, then we can only report information that's been reported already by some reliable source. That's the basic argument for deletion. If some media coverage arises, or if someone doing a scholarly work on Internet culture or something decides to document ED, then we can use that source to write an article, until then, we've got nothing to work with.

Does that answer your question? -GTBacchus(talk) 08:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much. Anything we write down based on our own knowledge or experience is, by definition, original research. -GTBacchus(talk) 15:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Some ED info if you're curious

Yeah, it's notable enough for an article now.

June 2005:

January 2006:

September 2006:

TV news coverage

  • MSNBC TV - MSNBC, the major and leading cable news network, reported on ED and its role in the RFJason Craigslist Experiment, including screen shots of the website and the URL, and specifically talking ABOUT the site by name repeatedly. Google Video mirror, and YouTube mirror.

International news coverage

  • The Ottawa Sun referenced ED, quoting our take on the evolution of the Emo scene.
  • The Toronto Sun also reported on our coverage of that music scene, in a much more expanded article.
  • Spiegal, a major German news source, reported on ED and Jason Fortuny.
  • La Press Affairs, a leading Francophone news source, also covered ED and Fortuny.

Major blogosphere

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