Talk:Voltron
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The Voltron name
If Voltron's REAL name is GOLION, then where did Voltron got it's name?
Was it from, VOLTES V????? -A Voltes V fan
Voltron is definitely a copy of Voltes Vin many aspects;
The 5-man team (Space Explorers in Voltron vs Young Earth Defense Agents in Voltes V.)
A multi-funtioning combination machine/robot craft. (Voltron as Lion Robots and Voltes V as Super Earth defense space ships.)
And then, the VOLT in Voltes V's name.
(They should have called Golion "Liontron" if they do not intend to "borrow" Voltes V's name.)
- Mark "Hentai" Jimenez
The Voltes V and Voltron Comparison
Reply for Mr. Mark Jimenez. Obviously, Voltron copied most of the concepts in Voltes V and none of these concepts were polished and improved after being added to the Voltron series. These concepts were merely “copy pasted” and then added some cosmetics to show as originals.
1. The Five Man team Concept- Voltron can get away with the reason that most Japanese sci-fi, be these as live action or animated, utilize the Five man team approach for their team heroes. 2. The “Gattai” Concept- Again, Voltron can use this reason since there are scores of giant robot series that’s being formed by multi-functioning machines or smaller robots long before Voltes V came into being.
3. The Giant Sword/final weapon concept- Clearly this is Voltes V’s original (Ten-ku-ken means "Sword of Heaven") The two Voltron shows imitated this as “The Blazing Sword.”
4. The VOLT in Voltes V’s name. (It was so obvious that Voltron took Voltes V’s name because of the five man team concept, Gattai Concept and the Giant sword final weapon concept.)
Supposed a fight erupts between Voltron and Voltes V; who will be vanquished and who will be victorious?
Let’s scrutinize this objectively:
1. The Skills and abilities of both teams:
There are no mentions of what kind of combat training the Voltron Force had under went in the academy. In regards to the Voltron episode I’ve seen so far, they were never subjugated under strict, harsh and extreme trainings. Let’s take the Voltron Force’s skill at face value; they were trained as space explorers. Perhaps, they can thoroughly navigate through deep space and they can handle the controls of different space craft under Galaxy Alliance specifications. That’s because they are Space Explorers!
The Voltes Team on the other hand, was highly skilled Earth Defense Agents. (Voltes V vol.1: Invasion from Outer Space) they are disciplined in such military and oriental combat skills as Karate, Judo, Kendo, Marksmanship and Ninjitsu.
General Oka, one of Camp. Big Falcon’s elderly base commander was a Ninja master. Further more, the Voltes Team most likely to use their martial arts skills to Voltes V’s deadly counter attacks (Voltes V vol.4: To Catch a butterfly)
More so, the Voltes Team underwent harsh and murderous training sessions under Dr. Sanjuki where they learned the lethal “Spin-Fly Technique”. (Voltes V vol.9: The need for rigid training.)
I strongly believe that between the Voltes Team and the Voltron Force, the Voltes Team in this aspect had the upper hand.
2. Weapon Comparison of the Two super robots:
Voltron was known to carry an array of space weapons against the “Robeasts” from Planet Doom. (Note: Robeasts are giant monsters that looked like giant clay creatures and lumbers mindlessly like drunken frat boys.)
- Voltron Eye beam
- Voltron Cross-beam
- Voltron Kick
- Voltron Shield
- Voltron Wing Attack
- Voltron Lion Head attack
- a variety of Voltron Missiles
- The Voltron Blazing Sword
On the other hand, Voltes V sports an arsenal of Ninjitsu-based super weapons against the “Beast Fighters” from Planet Boazania. (Note: Beast fighters are sentient giant robot monster-war machines from Boazania. They are mostly covered in heavy armors, they can think, plan an attack and some of them are skilled in archery and swordsmanship.)
- Chain Knuckles
- Finger Missiles
- Grand Fire
- Voltes Kick
- Voltes Bazookas
- Ultra-Electro magnetic Tops
- Ultra-Electro magnetic Beam
- Ultra-Electro Magnetic Whip
- The Big V Sword "Sword of Heaven"(Den Ku ken.)
But before Voltes V could use the Den-ku-ken, the great sword unleashes a powerful “Ultra-Electro Magnetic Ball.” This mighty ball of energy engulfs, weakens the armors and paralyzes the strongest of Voltes V’s opponents. Thus, Voltes V can easily bring down the Den ku ken at the trapped opponent and destroy it with ease. As an addition, Voltes V can even release several of the Ultra-Electro Magnetic Balls in rapid successions. One can just imagine how Voltron could fair against something like the Ultra-Electro Magnetic ball.
3. Human sentimentality in both shows: Most episodes of Voltron I’ve seen, contains no dramatic display of human sentiments what so ever. Yes, the Japanese of Voltron (Golion) had one of the Voltron members die. But in the “tampered” U.S. version, the character Sven retired from service. (Talk about dedication) The animated series even had a Disney- wannabe ambiance embodied by Space mice, beautiful princesses, castles and keeps and evil witches. There is nothing in this animated show that I can relate to: No sufferings of slaves, no uncertainties and indecisiveness among the main characters, no cries of anguish among the war victims. What’s even cornier is the fact that every time a Voltron episode starts to close, a character religiously proclaims Voltron: Defender of the Universe. Then they made this “Voltron in 3rd Dimension”; a computerized rendering of Voltron. This does not help at all. All I could see are animated action figures and a 30 minute commercial of a rehashed robot toy for kids to nag at their parents to buy.
Sadly, I can only level Voltron with other corny cartoons like He-Man, Thunder Cats, Scooby-Doo, the Herculoids, Thundar the Barbarian, Denver-the Last dinosaur and the Gobots. Missing one or fifteen episodes of Voltron means nothing, really.
Voltes V was a different ball game all together: The animated series was a tear jerker among youngsters and a quaint source of inspiration for older viewers. Voltes V highlights human sentimentality and emphasize the notion of the defense of one’s homeland, is a noble and desirable act.
Unlike other cartoon series in those era, Voltes V depicts the cruelty and barbarity of a mighty alien invasion force over the suffering Boazanian slaves and conquered Earth people altogether. The Voltes team was not “puppets” or mere mechanical components of Voltes V; The team had their own differences, feelings and sensibilities towards their team mates, and to the other supporting characters. They are young human warriors who witnessed the death of their self sacrificing mother and longed the warm love of a long lost father.
Buddy Paraiso
Red vs Blue quote
I removed the bolded part of this piece of information, because it seemed pretty tangentially related to the main topic, especially for something in the introductory paragraph:
Voltron was also mentioned in episode three of the web series red vs blue, in that episode the character Church asks his teammate Tucker what he would do with two chicks to which Tucker responds "Church women are like voltron the more you hook up the better it gets".
Esk 3 July 2005 20:25 (UTC)
Character Names
I find different American surnames for the Voltron characters in several websites. In Wikipedia is also not different. So which ones are the correct ones? The Japanese names are already correct, so we don't have to edit it, but I'm confused with the American ones. I got this names from various websites:
- Commander Keith Noel
- Lance Hollings
- Sven Byorn
- Malcom Cavish "Hunk"
- Princess Allura Tiel Osie'
- Patrick Grambling "Pidge"
- Coran Sile
- Prince Lotor Di'el
- King Zarkon Di'el
- Hagger
Can anyone verify this? Thanks HoneyBee 11:33, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hagar or Haggar?
There's two different spellings in the article, which one is correct? nae'blis (talk) 21:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Not properly tagged. --Dangerous-Boy 10:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Lance vs Sven
Current revision states that both Lance and Sven are the second in command. DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMSHHHRRRRRREEEEEE... teh TK 02:45, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- You need to READ MORE CAREFULLY. It says Sven WAS second in command, and all details of this are in the PAST TENSE. Then he was injured and retired to another planet. Allura replaced him as a pilot, and it's not too much of a brain burner to figure out that Lance replaced him as second in command. Canonblack 12:12, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Romour about movie
Someone said some movie might come out in the future. Please tell Me if this is true or dispel it. -- Eddie, Tuesday February 28 2006 at 23:18
- There is an article attached to this talk page, you might try reading it. It very specifically states that an untitled live action film project is in development. Canonblack 12:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Ive heard something about Pharrell Williams being involved with the movie. He was being interviewed on australian tv a few weeks back, and he was asked about the voltron movie, he confirmed it. I think he is a producer for the film, and i think he will be doing the music also. any info will be cool, if anyone has it. --Adam aka. Cho03 16:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
*Ahem*
"New York–based distributor Media Blasters has announced the commercial release of Voltron on August 23, 2006"
As of the writing of this comment, it is July 27, 2006. I know we're talking about a science fiction animated series here, but I doubt the author of this remark could see a month into the future.
*Ahem*
Well.. I didn't make the remark in question, but perhapse you should re-read it. And/or check out Mediablaster's page. The comment doesn't say the anouncement was made on Aug 23. Aug 23 is WHEN the DVDs will BE RELEASED. -- Angel the Techrat
Sound effects
I'm hesitant to do so, but I'm removing the parenthetical comments on sound effects added to the introductory section on August 14, 2006. The meaning is unclear, the analysis is based on conjecture, and if the content should be included at all, it belongs in the "Differences" section. I would suggest that if it is added there, some research be done on the actual sound effects used on the original. -- Fru1tbat 13:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- I cleaned up this section again. My reword was intended to remove any possible subjectivity. If anyone has a problem with my edits, please discuss here. -- Fru1tbat 20:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Fansites and external links
I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 09:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Relating the toys to the storyline?
It seems very likely to me that the numbers have nothing at all to do with the storylines. Also, does anybody have release and rerelease dates for the toys? Growing up, I don't know whether it was because of my age, or because of my parent's situation that I first started watching the vehicle Voltron series with no knowledge of the Lion Voltron series, but when I wanted the Voltron toys, which an aunt bought each group for me and my two younger siblings, I don't remember the Lion toys being around at that time either. Hackwrench 22:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Thinking about it some more, if there was an original toy release for the Lions, the numbering may have come about due to a successful rerelease after am unsuccessful first release. Hackwrench 02:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Earth was devastated by nuclear war?
"In Golion, the initial scenes are actually of Earth, as the pilots have returned from their mission in the year 1999 to find that the entire population of Earth has been killed in a nuclear war."
A nuclear war between who? Between Earth and Galra, or between two nations on Earth? 69.69.72.198 01:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
The DVD released isn't the japanese version
"Collection One: Blue Lion, featuring the first fifteen episodes of the series, is scheduled for wide release on September 26, 2006, though it was released early in the US under special agreement by some major retail chains on September 12, 2006. [1]"
From what I read on amazon.com from both the description and the user comments, this isn't the Japanese version. It's just the american version of Voltron. http://www.amazon.com/Voltron-Defender-Universe-Colletion-One/dp/B000FUTV64/sr=8-1/qid=1159887879/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5088939-7040868?ie=UTF8&s=dvd Inforazer 15:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)