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File:Boeing-NMA-2018-rendering.png

Is fair use - promo, and has a conforming rationale?--Marc Lacoste (talk) 06:16, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Marc Lacoste: It did not have a non-free use rationale for that particular use when I removed the image. I didn't noticed you had adressed that issue when I removed the file a second time, but once I did I self reverted.
Just for reference, being WP:ITSFAIRUSE is not necessarily being the same as bieng WP:NFCC-compliant. Moreover, just changing the article parameter name as syou did is not always sufficient. You'd be better off further clarifying in the non-free use rationale how the context required by WP:NFCC#8 for the way the file is being used in the article is provided because "to illustrate this aircraft project" and ""promo" are pretty much WP:DECORATIVE type of arguments. Wikipedia's non-free content use policy is much more restrictive than fair use (see WP:NFC#Background), and NFCC#8 tends to be one of the harder of the ten non-free content use criteria to meet. Providing more information in the rationale as to why omitting this image would be detrimental to the reader's understanding would help clarify its non-free use. Otherwise, it's at risk of someday being nominated for further discussion at WP:FFD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:27, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Can you help me write a better rationale then? The point is to show this plane general configuration, which is better conveyed through an image. Aircraft main pics are selected to show that and are good examples.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 06:33, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I'm not really convinced non-free use is justified in this case based upon the short paragraph about the Paris Air Show, which I'm asssuming that this image is intended to support. Read that section with the image and then without the image and see if there's a difference in understanding. If there is then that's the thing you want to focus on. How is the understanfing of the article content related to this image significantly improved by seeing this image so that omitting the image would be detrimental to that understanding. In other words, you need to explain as best as you can why the reader really needs to see this image. Generally, the idea is to try and tie the image to the relevant article content as much as possible, so that actually seeing the image significantly improves the reader's understanding. This is typically done by adding sourced critical commentary about the image in question to the article, but in this case maybe it's possible to add sourced content about the significant design changes/enhancements which can be clearly seen in the image. That's the best advice I can give since NFCC#8 tends to be subjective and different people look for different things. You can try asking for other opinions at WT:NFC if you want. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The point is it has a conventional tube & wing config, nothing wild like the sonic cruiser or blended wing body. Nothing extraordinary, but it is the interesting point of this config. Critical commentary is available from the pic origin through Jon Ostrower (a reputable aero journalist): "At first glance, the NMA resembles the familiar form of the modern airliner for the last 65 years, building on the generational evolution in subsonic aircraft design since Boeing’s 707.". It is placed in the most relevant section IMO, "2018", given it's a work in progress and will maybe evolve further. Perhaps a better Purpose of use would be to "depict the configuration of the projected airliner"? Can you show me comparable examples of technical projects with a good NFC rationale? Thanks. --Marc Lacoste (talk) 07:18, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Off hand, I cannot think of any particular examples you can use as reference. This doesn't mean there aren't any; it's just means I cannot remember one at the moment. You'll probably find images such as this being used in main infoboxes of stand-alone article most of the time, which tends to be a bit easier to justify; however, that doesn't mean they cannot be used in the other parts of an article as well. You can try asking at WT:NFC to see if any others can help you find some specific examples.
FWIW, it sounds like you have the workings of a fairly decent non-free use rationale. Many people don't try to make the extra effort and just add some boilerplate language or nothing at all, but at least you seem to be putting some thought into it. There's no way to guarantee that any image uploaded to Wikipedia will never challenged by someone someday, so my suggestion is to just explain it the best you can. One thing I do notice is that some people write really detailed rationales, which is good, but keep all the detail in the ratioanle, which is not so good. So, however you try to justify non-free use, you should try to include as much of the relevant detail within the article itself. Readers of the article are not typically going to go check out the non-free use rationale. In other words, if it's worth mentioning in the ratioanle, then it should be equallly as worth mentioning in the article itself. If Ostrower is a recognized expert/jounalist on stuff such as this, then it should be OK to cite/quote him as a reliable source per WP:NEWSBLOG or WP:SPS, etc., and if you can tie the image into his commentary or what others are saying, then that would be a good start. If anyone challenges the content or the image, you just have to be willing to discuss both. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you for your explanations. I replaced the purpose of File:Boeing-NMA-2018-rendering.png by "depict the configuration of the projected airliner" and of File:Boeing New Midsize Airplane side view.jpeg by "depict the size of the projected airliner". If you can think of something better or of a good example, please ping me! Bye.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 06:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Western Sydney Wanderers FC W-League logo.png

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Thanks for uploading File:Western Sydney Wanderers FC W-League logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for editing

hi, thank you for editing my wiki page. is it possible to remove my birthdate? I would prefer that info to not be online. Again thank you- rachell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raysunsun (talkcontribs) 17:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Raysunsun. I'm not sure which page you're referring to, but the only article you seem appear to have edited is Rachell Sumpter. So, if by chance you are "Rachell Sumpter", then you should be aware of and read through Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest and Wikipedia:Ownership of content. Although Wikipedia doesn't explicitly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, it does highly discourage it because it can lead to some serious problems. People closely connected to the subject of a Wikipedia article often have a hard time adhering to relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines such as those explained in Wikipedia:5 pillars; so, these people are encourage to discuss any changes they which to make to the article on its talk page so that more experienced editors can assess the edits. Living individuals who Wikipedia articles written about them (I'll explain this more below) are encouraged to follow Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia and seek assistance from others, except is some very specific serious cases which warrant immediate attention.
Wikipedia articles are not owned by the subjects they are written about or the editors who create them, so there are technically no "my wiki pages" on Wikipedia. Subjects of articles do not have any final editorial control over article content and articles are collaboratively improved over time through consensus. Everyone is welcomed to participate in the process as long as they are willing to comply with relevant policies and guidelines. Editors who have a conflict-of-interest with the subject matter are, however, (as explained above) encourage to discuss their changes first on the article's talk page, except in certain specific cases such as WP:COIADVICE.
One thing to remember about Wikipedia articles is that they are only intended to reflect relevant encyclopedic content which can be verified through citations to reliable sources. This content may be of a positive or negative nature as long as it reflects what what reliable sources say about the subject as explained in WP:PROUD and WP:LUC as long as it is worded in a manner which complies with relevant policies and guidelines. Extra care is taken with respect to articles about living persons to try an ensure this, but Wikipedia's role is not to try and promote/disparage any particular person or things. Personal information if reliably sourced and deemed relevant enough for inclusion is often allowed as explained in WP:BLPPRIVACY, but Wikipedia does try to maintain a balance between individual privacy and content readily found in reliable sources. I don't see any information about Rachell Sumpter's date of birth in the article; there was something once in the article, but that was removed by an IP address in November 2015. The information can still be seen in the article's edit history though; if that's a concern, you should email Wikipedia:Oversight and see if they can remove it. You should be advised though the same information can be found on Rachael Sumpter's personal website, which means Wikipedia is not the original source for the information. If Rachell Sumpter is concerned about people knowing when/where she was born, then perhaps she should not post the info anywhere online. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:32, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pics on my userpage

The pictures you adjusted are ones that I specifically obtained info on at wiki commons?

Please advise why these aren’t available for use to an ordinary user, such as I MissTofATX (talk) 22:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MissTofATX. The three files I converted to links are File:DSPCoatofArms.jpg, File:Texas A&M University San Antonio seal.svg and File:Texas A&M–Corpus Christi seal.svg. These files are hosted locally on Wikipedia as non-free content; so, I am not sure which Commons files you are referring to above. Anyway, as I posted in the edit sum I left here, non-free content is not allowed to be used on user pages per WP:NFCC#9 and WP:UP#Non-free files. If you still have any questions about this, feel free to ask them below, at WP:MCQ or at WT:NFC. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hello. Help expanded article by Maureen Wroblewitz from [1]. Thanks you.116.110.228.29 (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]