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Files for discussion (FfD) is for listing images and other media files which are unneeded or have either free content or non-free content usage concerns. Files that have been listed here for more than 7 days are eligible for either deletion or removal from pages if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to deletion or removal have been raised. To quote the non-free content criteria, "it is the duty of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; those seeking to remove or delete it are not required to show that one cannot be created." For undeletion requests, first contact the administrator who deleted the file. If you are unable to resolve the issue with that administrator, the matter should be brought to deletion review.

Examples of what files you may request for deletion or change here:

  • Obsolete – The file has been replaced by a better version.
  • Orphan – The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia.
  • Unencyclopedic – The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in any Wikimedia project.
  • Low quality – The file is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns.
  • Copyright violation – The file might be used in violation of copyright.
  • Possibly unfree – The file is tagged with a freeness claim, but may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States.
  • NFCC violation – The file is used under a claim of fair use but does not meet the requirements.
  • NFCC applied to free image – The file is used under a claim of fair use, but the file is either too simple, or is an image which has been wrongly labeled given evidence presented on the file description page.

If you have questions if something should be deleted, consider asking at Media Copyright Questions.

What not to list here[edit]

  1. For speedy deletion candidates, do not use this page; instead use one of the speedy deletion templates. See the criteria for speedy deletion. These are: duplicates (where both files are on Wikipedia), thumbnails, broken files, non-existent files, non-commercial, "by permission" files and files which are not an image, sound file or video clip and have no encyclopedic use.
  2. Files that have no source, have an unknown copyright, are unused or replaceable non-free, or are non-free without rationale can be marked so that they will be deleted after a week, and should not be listed on this page. Add one of the following to the file page:
    1. {{subst:nsd}} if a file has no source indicated
    2. {{subst:nld}} if a file has a source but no licensing information
    3. {{subst:orfud}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but isn't used in any articles
    4. {{subst:rfu}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but could be replaced by a free file
    5. {{subst:dfu|reason}} if a file has a non-free copyright tag but the rationale isn't sufficient or is disputed
    6. {{subst:frn}} if a file has no non-free use rationale
  3. Redundant or duplicate files do not have to be listed here. Please use
    1. {{isd|Full name of file excluding the "File:" prefix}} for speedy deletion if the other file is on Wikipedia, not on Commons
    2. {{now commons|File:NEW FILENAME}} if the file now exists on Commons, or {{now commons}} for files with the same name on Commons. (Don't nominate protected images, they are usually locally uploaded and protected since they are used in an interface message or in a highly used template, thus they are high-risk.)
  4. For blatant copyright infringements, use speedy deletion by tagging the file {{db-f9}}
  5. If a file is listed as public domain or under a free license, but lacks verification of this (either by an OTRS ticket number or a notice on the source website), tag it as {{subst:npd}}.
  6. Files that are hosted on Wikimedia Commons cannot be deleted via this process. Please use the Commons deletion page instead.
  7. Description pages with no local file, even though they are in the file namespace, should not be listed here.
    1. Redirects should be treated as in any other namespace: if no speedy deletion criteria apply, they should be listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion.
    2. Local description pages for files hosted on Commons are usually speedy-deletable under criterion F2; use {{db-nofile}}.
    3. Local description pages with no associated file are speedy-deletable under criterion G8; use {{db-imagepage}}.
    4. Any other deletion of a description page with no local file should be listed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion.
  8. If a file is appropriately licensed and could be usable elsewhere, consider copying it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of listing it for deletion. Once copied to the Commons, it is eligible for speedy deletion per criterion 8 for files.
  9. If you are the uploader of the image, tag it with {{db-author}}.

Instructions for listing files for discussion

To list a file:

1
Edit the file page.

Add {{ffd|log=2016 July 26}} to the file page.

2
Create its FfD subsection.

Follow this edit link and list the file using {{subst:ffd2|File_name.ext|Uploader= |Reason= }} ~~~~

Leave the subject heading blank.

If the file has been replaced by another file, name the file that replaced it in your reason for deletion. Refer below for a list of other common reasons.

For listing additional files with the same reason, edit the first file section and use {{subst:ffd2a|File_name.ext|Uploader= }} for each additional file. Also, add {{ffd|log=2016 July 26}} to the top of the file page of each file other than the first one nominated.

3
Give due notice.

Inform the uploader by adding a message to their talk page using {{subst:fdw|File_name.ext}}

  • Remember to replace "File_name.ext" with the name of the image or media
  • For multiple images by the same user, use {{subst:fdw-multi|First_file.ext|Second_file.ext|Third_file.ext}} ~~~~ (can handle up to 26)

If the image is in use, also consider adding {{ffdc|File_name.ext|log=2016 July 26}} to the caption(s), or adding a notice to the article talk pages. Consider also notifying relevant WikiProjects of the discussion.

State the reasons why the file should be deleted, removed, or altered. Also, state what specific action should be taken, preferably in bold text; this allows discussion participants and closers to better understand the purpose of the nomination. Some examples of nomination statements include:

  • Delete. Orphaned with no foreseeable encyclopedic usage.
  • Delete. Replaced by File:FILE2.
  • Free (public domain) file may actually be eligible for copyright in the United States. This photograph was actually first published in 1920, not 1926.
  • Remove from ARTICLE1 and ARTICLE2. The file only meets WP:NFCC#8 with its use in ARTICLE3.
  • Non-free file may actually be free. This logo does not seem to meet the threshold of originality to be eligible for copyright in the United States and should actually be tagged free using {{PD-logo}}.


Some common reasons for deletion or removal from pages are:

  • Obsolete - The file has been replaced by a better version. Indicate the new file name (often abbreviated OB)
  • Orphan - The file is not used on any pages in Wikipedia. (If the file is only available under "fair use", please use {{subst:orfud}} instead). Please consider moving "good" free licensed files to Commons rather than outright deleting them, other projects may find a use for them even if we have none; you can also apply {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} . (often abbreviated OR, not to be confused with original research which generally doesn't apply to images)
  • Unencyclopedic - The file doesn't seem likely to be useful in this encyclopedia (or for any Wikimedia project). Images used on userpages should generally not be nominated on this basis alone unless the user is violating the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not policy by using Wikipedia to host excessive amounts unencyclopedic material (most commonly private photos). (often abbreviated UE)
  • Low quality - The image is of an extremely low resolution, distorted, or has other physical image quality concerns. (often abbreviated LQ)
  • Copyright violation - The file might be used in violation of copyright. (often abbreviated CV)
  • Possibly unfree file - The file marked as free may actually be non-free. If the file is determined to be non-free, then it will be subject to the non-free content criteria in order to remain on Wikipedia.
  • Non-free file issues - The non-free file may not meet all requirements outlined in the non-free file use policy, or may not be necessary to retain on Wikipedia or specific articles due to either free alternatives or better non-free alternative(s) existing.
  • File marked as non-free may actually be free - The file is marked non-free, but may actually be free content. (Example: A logo may not eligible for copyright alone because it is not original enough, and thus the logo is considered to be in the public domain.)

These are not the only "valid" reasons to discuss a file. Any properly explained reason can be used. The above list comprises the most common and uncontroversial ones.

Since abbreviated deletion reasons will not be familiar to most Wikipedians, especially newbies, please consider using full words. A few extra keystrokes now can save paragraphs of explanation to a panicked uploader wondering what's wrong with their image.

If you remove a file from an article, list the article from which you removed it so there can be community review of whether the file should be deleted. This is necessary because file pages do not remember the articles on which the file were previously used.

Administrator instructions

Contents

Instructions for discussion participation[edit]

In responding to the deletion nomination, consider adding your post in the format
* '''View''' - Reasoning ... -- ~~~~
where "Delete", "Keep", "Comment", or something else may replace "View". In posting their reasoning, many editors use abbreviations and cite to the following:

Remember that polling is not a substitute for discussion. Wikipedia's primary method of determining consensus is through editing and discussion, not voting. Although editors occasionally use straw polls in an attempt to test for consensus, polls or surveys sometimes impede rather than assist discussion. They should be used with caution, and are no more binding than any other consensus decision.

Also remember that if you believe that an image is potentially useful for other projects and should be moved to Wikimedia Commons, in lieu of responding '''Move to Commons''', you can move it there yourself. See Wikipedia:Moving files to the Commons for instructions.

Instructions for closing discussions[edit]

Nominations should be processed for closing after being listed for 7 days following the steps here.

Old discussions[edit]

The following discussions are more than 7 days old and are pending processing by an administrator:

For older nominations, see the archives.

Discussions approaching conclusion

Recent nominations[edit]

July 20[edit]

File:InvisibleMouse3.jpg[edit]

File:InvisibleMouse3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by MartinP1983 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free screenshot being used in a purely decorative manner in The Invisible Mouse. The screenshot is not being used as the primary means of identifying this particular episode and itself is not the subject of any sourced commentary within the article, so the context required by WP:NFCC#8 is not clear. Moreover, the purpose of the screenshot seems to be simply to illustrate a particular scene (plot element) of cartoon which is not really how such screenshots are recommended to be used by WP:FILMNFI. The same file was removed from the article back in January 2010 with this edit for non-free concerns and subsequently deleted per WP:F5. File, however, was recently undeleted per Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 238#File:InvisibleMouse1.jpg, but looks like it was simply re-added to the article without any attempt made to address the non-free concerns which lead to it being removed in the first place. Unless it can being clearly demonstrated how this screenshot improves the reader's understanding to such a degree that removing it would be detrimental to that understanding, I think the image should be removed from the article once again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete The screenshot is used in the plot section against WP:FILMNFI in that the plot section describes the film and is not critical commentary of the image itself. There is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article, it does nothing to increase the reader's understanding of the film and its exclusion is not detrimental to the understanding of the film, thereby failing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 01:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Council of Europe logo (2013 revised version).png[edit]

File:Council of Europe logo (2013 revised version).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Frenzie23 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free logo being used in Council of Europe, List of Permanent Representatives of the United Kingdom to the Council of Europe and List of heads of missions of the United Kingdom. File has been provided with a non-free use rationale for each of these uses, but only the one for "Council of Europe" seems to satisfy WP:NFCC.

Use in the list article is purely decorative and is something not really allowed per WP:NFCC#8 or WP:NFCC#3. There's no way to justify non-free use as essentially a 25px "flag icon" in List of heads of missions of the United Kingdom#Heads of mission to international organisations for a single entry in a list of similar organizations per WP:NFLISTS. For reference, file was being used in a similar manner in List of current presidents of assembly#International organisations, Ramil Safarov#Organizations and List of supreme courts by country#International courts, but was removed per WP:NFCCE (WP:NFCC#10c).

Use in "List of Permanent Representatives of the United Kingdom to the Council of Europe" also seems decorative since "Council of Europe" is clearly wikilinked in the first sentence and this article is a list of UK representatives to the Council not an article discussing the Council itself in any detail. Suggest keep for "Council of Europe" and remove from the two list articles. Also suggest that the close make mention that the file is not to be used as a "flag icon" for entries in any other list articles without proper justification for non-free use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:DPFfig1.jpg[edit]

File:DPFfig1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Leesing (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused low-res JPG diagram. Kelly hi! 12:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dr feingold82.jpg[edit]

File:Dr feingold82.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Shulae (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused, low resolution, missing evidence of permission. Kelly hi! 12:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dr Mualla McManus 2010.jpg[edit]

File:Dr Mualla McManus 2010.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tholepin (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - orphaned from rejected/deleted draft. Kelly hi! 13:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Could you please delay deletion for 14 days as I will create new entry for linking to this jpg. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tholepin (talkcontribs) 20:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Keep Potentially useful free images should not be deleted. Thincat (talk) 12:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep Currently used in a draft. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 02:12, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dr sadrnezh.jpg[edit]

File:Dr sadrnezh.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Smmsadrnezh (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether the uploader is the copyright holder. Kelly hi! 13:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:DR SATISH K KAPOOR.jpg[edit]

File:DR SATISH K KAPOOR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Laxmikantdama (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused, low resolution. Kelly hi! 13:07, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dr. Christopher G. Chute.jpg[edit]

File:Dr. Christopher G. Chute.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GJiang (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The current version of the file is on Commons as File:Christopher G. Chute.jpg. The old low-resolution version is obsolete/not required. Kelly hi! 13:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dr.W Selvamuthy & Kalam.jpg[edit]

File:Dr.W Selvamuthy & Kalam.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Surajram (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder of photo. Kelly hi! 13:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:DragonGym.jpg[edit]

File:DragonGym.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DragonGymnastics (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused, unclear authorship/permission. Kelly hi! 13:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Drawing Square in Perspective1.gif[edit]

File:Drawing Square in Perspective1.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sir Isaac Lime (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused low-res diagram. Kelly hi! 13:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Drinkmore.night.jpg[edit]

File:Drinkmore.night.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Axcelis555 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 13:33, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Drinkmore.night.sm.jpg[edit]

File:Drinkmore.night.sm.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Axcelis555 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 13:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Drive Works Ltd. logo.jpg[edit]

File:Drive Works Ltd. logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lucson (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused logo. Kelly hi! 13:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Driver Information Center.jpg[edit]

File:Driver Information Center.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Carguy12 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused diagram. Kelly hi! 13:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Dry cell.png[edit]

File:Dry cell.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Daniel Casner (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused png diagram. Kelly hi! 13:47, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:DTTO (Chemical).png[edit]

File:DTTO (Chemical).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by BlackDragon2712 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused PNG diagram. Kelly hi! 14:30, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Early submarines.png[edit]

File:Early submarines.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CP\M (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused diagram. Kelly hi! 14:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Edgewood downtown water tower.JPG[edit]

File:Edgewood downtown water tower.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lothar1976 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 14:45, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Edinburgh Terrace 1953.jpg[edit]

File:Edinburgh Terrace 1953.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Knightmail (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is photographer. Kelly hi! 14:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

The entry is very clear. The author of the picture is listed. It is also stated that I have ownership and rights to use the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightmail (talkcontribs) 17:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Rover 90 1955.jpg[edit]

File:Rover 90 1955.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andrew90 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Appears to have been taken from an "all rights reserved" file from Flickr, https://www.flickr.com/photos/rccapics/4341806550/in/album-72157623251559615, obviously without proper license. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Portrait, 1980. Collage and ink on paper.png[edit]

File:Portrait, 1980. Collage and ink on paper.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cdiogenes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Violates WP:NFG. This painting is not mentioned in the article outside of being named in the caption, thus no critical commentary to satisfy WP:NFCCP#8.  ★  Bigr Tex 21:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Peris Carbonell New York City.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cdiogenes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Paris 1900, France II.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cdiogenes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

July 21[edit]

File:Hawks-Moody 1 - Copy.jpg[edit]

File:Hawks-Moody 1 - Copy.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hamlet94 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious copyright ownership claim FASTILY 06:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Hap Moran.jpg[edit]

File:Hap Moran.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Newspaper scan, possible derivative of non-free content FASTILY 06:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:F Morgan Taylor.jpg[edit]

File:F Morgan Taylor.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Published > 1923, possibly non-free FASTILY 06:58, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Giants give to Unemployment Fund.jpg[edit]

File:Giants give to Unemployment Fund.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Possible derivative of non-free content (historical photo) FASTILY 06:59, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Ed Weir.jpg[edit]

File:Ed Weir.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 06:59, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Ed Weir 1925.jpg[edit]

File:Ed Weir 1925.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 06:59, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:JackMcBride 1928.jpg[edit]

File:JackMcBride 1928.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 07:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Jack McBride detail 1941.jpg[edit]

File:Jack McBride detail 1941.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 07:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:McBride Paterson Panthers 1935.jpg[edit]

File:McBride Paterson Panthers 1935.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 07:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:PC Wildcats.jpg[edit]

File:PC Wildcats.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 07:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Paul Hogan 1926.jpg[edit]

File:Paul Hogan 1926.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Historical photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 07:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Edward frederick crippen portrait.jpg[edit]

File:Edward frederick crippen portrait.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bankhallbretherton (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No information on author, date or place of original publication. Kelly hi! 07:36, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:EdwardBall.jpg[edit]

File:EdwardBall.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mgreason (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Description page at Florida Memory contains no information concerning authorship. There's no evidence the government of Florida holds the copyright. Kelly hi! 07:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Eger.jpg[edit]

File:Eger.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Yellowmellow45 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused file, missing evidence of permission. Kelly hi! 07:43, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Eggcream.jpg[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT 05:02, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Eggcream.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Perlow (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 07:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

File:Ego03.jpg[edit]

File:Ego03.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Black chungo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused band photo, unclear authorship. Kelly hi! 07:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Egyptianinfantry.jpg[edit]

File:Egyptianinfantry.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Enriquecardova (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear from terms whether or not image has a noncommercial license. Kelly hi! 07:58, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:EildonScottsView.JPG[edit]

File:EildonScottsView.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Edward Waverley (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Photo is attributed to another editor, missing evidence of permission. Kelly hi! 08:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Elaine Hamilton ONeal Untitled(Mexico).jpg[edit]

File:Elaine Hamilton ONeal Untitled(Mexico).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by MarylandArtLover (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused art image. I think we would need some evidence that the uploader owns the copyright as claimed. Kelly hi! 09:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Elgar portrait.jpg[edit]

File:Elgar portrait.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Megawats (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Insufficient authorship and publication information given to determine copyright status. Kelly hi! 10:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:EliHMurray.jpg[edit]

File:EliHMurray.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Spacini (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused low-res version of File:Eli Houston Murray.jpg. Kelly hi! 10:26, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Please move to speedy deletion. My file is much lower resolution than the one currently being used. Spacini (talk) 15:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Elizabeth I Hardwick Portrait.jpg[edit]

File:Elizabeth I Hardwick Portrait.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Daniel Newman (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused version of File:Elizabeth I of England Hardwick 1592.jpg. Kelly hi! 10:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ElorThMiaoulis.jpg[edit]

File:ElorThMiaoulis.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GK1973 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused flag image, no source. Kelly hi! 10:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ElorThPsara.jpg[edit]

File:ElorThPsara.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GK1973 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused flag image, no source. Kelly hi! 10:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ElorThSpetses.jpg[edit]

File:ElorThSpetses.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GK1973 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused flag image, no source. Kelly hi! 10:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:EM-Cutaway.jpg[edit]

File:EM-Cutaway.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bomaxwell (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No evidence of permission. Kelly hi! 10:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:EMERGENCY USA Logo.jpg[edit]

File:EMERGENCY USA Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jhlee912 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused logo. Kelly hi! 10:59, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Eminent Personalities Meeting Anukulchandra.jpg[edit]

File:Eminent Personalities Meeting Anukulchandra.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rprosad (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No evidence the website source given is the copyright holder of the photo. Kelly hi! 11:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Emirate of Fujairah flag.gif[edit]

File:Emirate of Fujairah flag.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ChuchoHuff (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused flag image. Kelly hi! 11:03, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Emma-orig.png[edit]

File:Emma-orig.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ska8706 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 11:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Emory-university-psychology.jpg[edit]

File:Emory-university-psychology.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Blagov (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 11:07, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Emotional relationships1.png[edit]

File:Emotional relationships1.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Melcorney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused diagram. Kelly hi! 11:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Emward.jpg[edit]

File:Emward.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skb8721 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Insufficient sourcing information to verify copyright. Kelly hi! 11:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't recall my original source for this image, though I'm sure it was in the public domain. However, this image could be replaced with another image of the vessel whose public-domain source is known. --Skb8721 (talk) 14:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:English, Illustration to a poem by poe published 1900 - vectorized using Adobe Illustrator.svg[edit]

File:English, Illustration to a poem by poe published 1900 - vectorized using Adobe Illustrator.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Accuruss (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused derivative of File:Edgar Allan Poe-Poem-The Conqueror Worm-Noel.jpg. Kelly hi! 11:18, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Enomatic logo.jpg[edit]

File:Enomatic logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Enomatic (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused logo. Kelly hi! 11:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Epicrates.cenchria.cenchria.1.JPG[edit]

File:Epicrates.cenchria.cenchria.1.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Elano (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether or not the license is "Wikipedia only". Kelly hi! 11:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Eremiorniscarteri.JPG[edit]

File:Eremiorniscarteri.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mmslouis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, obsoleted by File:EremiornisCarteriKeulemans.jpg. Kelly hi! 11:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Erick Miller.png[edit]

File:Erick Miller.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 301man (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused personal photo. Kelly hi! 11:36, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Erskinee.jpg[edit]

File:Erskinee.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ramacdo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused flag image. Kelly hi! 11:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ESBATNIGHT.JPG[edit]

File:ESBATNIGHT.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikiwiki1 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unclear whether uploader is copyright holder. Kelly hi! 11:42, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Esrb ratigns banner 2.gif[edit]

File:Esrb ratigns banner 2.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Iema (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete, unused diagram. Kelly hi! 14:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Etty7.gif[edit]

File:Etty7.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jenalohrens (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unlikely to be of encylopedic use. Kelly hi! 14:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Pt-2745-75dpi.jpg[edit]

File:Pt-2745-75dpi.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Willy turner (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unfree image with no valid fair use rationale. This poster is not discussed, as such, in the Kriegsmarine article. It is also not needed to illustrate the topic because there are free images of both Kriegsmarine battleships and the Kriegsmarine flag. It is also inherently non-neutral to use a propaganda poster as the article's lead illustration.  Sandstein  19:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

July 22[edit]

File:TV5 (ABC5) Logo.png[edit]

File:TV5 (ABC5) Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Paoloplopenio (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free logo currently being used in 11 articles: DWET-TV, DWTE-TV, DXER-TV, DXET-TV, DXTE-TV, DYER-TV, DYET-TV, DYTE-TV, DZET-TV, TV5 (Philippines), and TV5 Network (company).

Non-free use rationales are not provided for the "DWTE", "DXET", "DXTE", "DYER", "DYET", and "DZET" articles so the file's usage in these article fails WP:NFCC#10c. File has a rationale for use in the "DXER", "DYTE" and "DWET" articles, but these are all stand-alone articles of individual affiliate stations of "TV5 (Phillipines)", so I believe they should be treated as "child entities" per No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI. Logos specific to each of these individual stations can be used in their respective articles, but repeating the the "parent entity" logo does not meet the purpose of WP:NFCC#3 in my opinion. Suggest remove from all of the individual station articles.

Use in "TV5 (Phillipines)" seems fine, but the non-free use in "TV5 Network (company)" does not. The company article is using the freely licensed File:Pic stock-geo ph-mm-quezon city-novaliches-quirino hwy.-san bartolome-tv5 studio (2015) a0002.jpg in its infobox, and the logo can be seen fairly well in that photo. So, I don't think a non-free version which essentially shows the same logo is really needed per WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#1. Suggest keep for "TV5 (Phillipines) and remove for "TV5 Newtork (company)".

For reference, file was also being used multiple times in List of digital television stations in the Philippines, but I removed it since this type of "decorative" (i.e., icon-like) in lists and tables is not really allowed per MOS:LOGO and WP:NFCCP (WP:NFLISTS/WP:NFTABLES). File also had no non-free use rationale for each of these uses, so WP:NFCC#10c was not satisfied.

Finally, all of the above is predicated upon the file being unsuitable for conversion to public domain. The file does not seem to be, in my opinion, clearly simple enough for Template:PD-logo or perhaps even Template:PD-USonly due to the shadowing of the 3D red ball and the white smear affect on the ball. So, unless there is a clear consensus otherwise, I think the file should remain non-free. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:40, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:W. pete henry pottsville charm.jpg[edit]

File:W. pete henry pottsville charm.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Revmoran (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Possible derivative of non-free content FASTILY 06:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Witham Hall.jpeg[edit]

File:Witham Hall.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hamlet94 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Uploader owns copy of the photo, but may not be the copyright holder. Missing clear evidence of permission. FASTILY 06:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Elisha Kriis 2016 July.JPG[edit]

File:Elisha Kriis 2016 July.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ravi2388 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

While I couldn't locate the original, a cropped version of this image is available at Kriis' Instagram page (top left), the copyright likely belongs to Kriis, her agency or photographer. The uploaded image contains no credible information about its origin and is likely to be part of a professional photoshoot. The uploader is currently blocked on Commons for repeated copyright violations with false claims of authorship. GermanJoe (talk) 08:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Update: I have left some information about OTRS and the need to verify permissions via email on the uploader's talkpage. See also the uploader's new message about the file on the file's talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 22:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Salvation rmx poster (2).jpg[edit]

File:Salvation rmx poster (2).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hamilton ford (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Event poster, but there's no source/OTRS to confirm the GFDL status. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:59, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Carrickmines Fire Scene.jpg[edit]

File:Carrickmines Fire Scene.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sturgeontransformer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No indication of CC status at source listed. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:05, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Aspropyrgos Refinery Fire.jpg[edit]

No indication of CC status at source listed. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

I still see no indication on the ORIGINAL source that it's CC. What Google Images says is irrelevant. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:26, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Sturgeontransformer (talk) 22:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

UPDATE: Following a revision of all images I have posted to Wikipedia, I have identified several that were erroneously identified as CC. These images have been removed from articles, and have been promptly tagged with the notification for speedy deletion.

If any remaining photos uploaded by myself are found to be incorrectly identified as CC, please feel free to let me know. This was totally my mistake, and I am committed to fixing my errors as quickly as possible--and to ensuring that it doesn't happen again. Thank you Sfan00 for your diligence in notifying me of my mistakes so speedily, and for clarifying my initial confusion. Please be assured that I have learned from this mistake, and will be much more careful in future.

Best, 00:26, 23 July 2016 (UTC)Sturgeontransformer (talk)

File:HKID pic-adult-front sample.jpg[edit]

File:HKID pic-adult-front sample.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Benjwong (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image being used in Hong Kong Identity Card and Identity document. Files has a non-free use rationale for each use, but only the use in the stand-alone article about the card itself seems to comply WP:NFCC. "Identity document" is essentially a list article which has entries for ID cards from various countries. There is no sourced commentary discussing the technical aspects of the card itself and there is even a hatnote in Identity document#Hong Kong which directs the reader to the stand-alone article. The context required by WP:NFCC#8 is lacking and the minimal use required by WP:NFCC#3 is also not satisfied per No. 6 of WP:NFC#UUI and WP:NFLISTS. Suggest keep for "Hong Kong Identity Card" and remove from "Identity document". -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:28, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Abdul Qayyum Inamdar.jpg[edit]

File:Abdul Qayyum Inamdar.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Asgarinamdar (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Upload by account blocked for spam. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:21, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Fenil p cyriac.jpg[edit]

File:Fenil p cyriac.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fenilpc (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused user page profile photo. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Tyrelessly Logo.png[edit]

File:Tyrelessly Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Techapto (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Simple text but has NFUR given. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:26, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Uziceloc.png[edit]

File:Uziceloc.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LukaP (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

unused Serbian locator maps, not of a standard style that I recognize. Superseded by maps like Image:Municipalities of Serbia Pirot.png.  ★  Bigr Tex 20:01, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

File:POZAREVACloc.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LukaP (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Suboticaloc.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LukaP (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pirotloc.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LukaP (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

July 23[edit]

File:Elizabeth Christ Trump.jpg[edit]

File:Elizabeth Christ Trump.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nowa (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

A free image of Elizabeth Christ Trump is available via Wikimedia Commons. MB298 (talk) 01:25, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

@MB298: where? Magog the Ogre (t c) 20:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre: It appears on her Wikipedia page, and shows her and her husband (I am editing on mobile now and am too lazy to provide a link). MB298 (talk) 01:46, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ESC 1964 logo.png[edit]

File:ESC 1964 logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AxG (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Near identical file at Commons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Palmeiras logo.svg[edit]

File:Palmeiras logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Benstown (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This logo is apparently "free" on Commons, so the image locally is a duplicate. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:37, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Not sure about the "freeness" of this logo. The commons lists two different reasons: 1- simple shapes, text (i disagree), and; 2- expired copyright in Brazil (don't know). i can't decide either way, but i would say keep, because it's harmless. --Ben Stone 01:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Medaile2016.jpeg[edit]

File:Medaile2016.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Erempari (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Not sure how this is a self, given it seems to be a coin/medal design. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

As the Ertar activities consist mostly of reconstructing incomplete information and artifacts brought from the fantasy world Ertar (in paralel universe) for amusement and study purposes of SF fans, this medal design is my humble work showing the importance of the continued existence of READERCONS (regular meetings of the Light Years Magazine readers and Ertar fans). We believe that in Ertar the 31st anniversary (11111 in binary!) is held quite seriously and this picture is our original idea, how the "real" thing looks like. Erempari. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erempari (talkcontribs) 09:57, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:QanaLeaflet.jpg[edit]

File:QanaLeaflet.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zeq (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This looks like a propaganda sheet, copyright is most likley with the state entity that dropped it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:BrownCanvas.jpg[edit]

File:BrownCanvas.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by The infidelguy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Uploader is claiming to be the copyright holder but the image appears to be a professional PR photo. See [1]. We would need OTRS verification that the uploader is the copyright holder. Whpq (talk) 13:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Miguel Hidalgo mural by Aarón Piña Mora.JPG[edit]

File:Miguel Hidalgo mural by Aarón Piña Mora.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CarolusFride (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Mural by artist who died in 2010, I fail to see how this can be freely licensed. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:50, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Vacios oteiza.jpg[edit]

File:Vacios oteiza.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jon MB (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No explicit PD indication at source listed. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete - invalid PD reasoning on the part of the uploader. The lack of an explicit copyright tag does not mean it is public domain. -- Whpq (talk) 13:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Zoltan Hajos at the University of Veszprem 1953.pdf[edit]

File:Zoltan Hajos at the University of Veszprem 1953.pdf (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zghajos (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The author given appears in the photograph (no. 1). I wonder if this really is the case. Leyo 21:10, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

July 24[edit]

File:Long Beach Jane Doe.jpg[edit]

File:Long Beach Jane Doe.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gourami Watcher (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Is this a fairuse replaceable image? We have File:700UFCA Recon 08-12-2014.jpg which is another reconstruction but that's just a creation by an editor from what I can tell. Note that List of unidentified murder victims in California uses the commons image and not this one. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:55, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


  • Keep The image is used because it was created by professionals - NCMEC has state-of-the-art technology as well. The watermarking part of the argument does not apply because it is only recommended for free images, which this image is not.--GouramiWatcherTalk 20:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
What about the other image then? It isn't like that specific image is famous or something (like if it was the first reconstruction or some wrong reconstruction) so if someone can create a free version, isn't our usage of the non-free one problematic? I'm wondering about that other reconstruction entirely; we don't know anything about it other than one editor @CarlK90245: claims that it is another reconstruction and that editor is not a reliable source on whether or not they know how to reconstruct images. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:09, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar 23:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:National Bank of New Zealand logo.svg[edit]

File:National Bank of New Zealand logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by XLerate (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free file currently being used in Lloyds Bank#Expnasion, National Bank of New Zealand, Lloyds Associated Banking Company, Lloyds Bank California and Lloyds Bank Canada. Files has a non-free use rationale for each usage, but there are WP:NFCCP problems with each of these usages.

  • File is being used to illustrate a former logo in "Lloyds Bank". Although there is some discussion of the merger that led to this logo being replaced, the logo itself is not the subject of any sourced commentary within the relevant section so the context required by WP:NFCC#8 is lacking. Suggest remove from article unless the NFCC#8 issues are fixed.
  • File's usage in "Lloyds Associated Banking Company", "Lloyds Bank California" and "Lloyds Bank Canada" is problematic because of No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI. Each of these is listed as a subsidiary of Lloyds Bank and the parent entities are generally not allowed to be used in stand-alone articles about their child entities. Moreover, the source url provided for the file, www.nationalbank.co.nz/rural/information/ruralreport/pdf/200812.pdf, is not longer working and the earliest archived version of it that I could find of it (here) does not indicate any connection to any of these three subsidiaries at all. I've tried searching for something to indicate such a connection, but have had no luck. This might be simply because all three subsidiaries have been defunct for almost 30 years. The connection between the logo and the subsidiaries is sketchy at best and very hard to verify so I suggest remove from each of the articles.
  • File's usage in "National Bank of New Zealand" is a bit unclear per NFCC#8 and No. 17 of NFC#UUI. According to the article, the bank was sold by Lloyd's to ANZ Bank in 2003, which would make it a subsidiary of ANZ Bank after 2003. The article says that an agreement was reached which allowed the bank to continue to use the Lloyds logo for a period of 7 years after the sale, but this statement not supported by a reliable source. However, based upon the archived url mentioned, it appears that the bank was using the logo as late as 2008, so it seems the logo is being used as stated in its non-free use rationale. The bank is listed as going defunct in 2012, which means, if the article is accurate, that it's possible that it was possibly using another logo after it's agreement with Lloyds ran out after 7 years and before it went defunct. the most recent archived version I could find of the bank using the Lloyds logo is from October 2012. This November 2012 archived version states that the bank "has joined with ANZ". So, I'm not sure how to reconcile what these websites with the "With the purchase, ANZ also bought the right to continue to use the Black Horse logo for seven years." in the article since the logo seems to have been used for more than 7 years after ANZ bought the bank. This is the only possible article where the file's usage seems to be NFCC compliant, but I am interested in hearing what others might think.

-- Marchjuly (talk) 02:21, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

@2.27.75.26: The file is being used in five articles. Are you suggesting "keep" for all five articles, or only certain articles. I still feel that the non-free usage of the logo does not come close to satisfying in NFCC#8 in "Lloyds Bank" and the file should be removed from that article. As for the subsidiaries, while it's true that you've helped clarify the connection between Lloyds Bank PLC and the other four, they are still described as wholly owned subsidiaries of the former in their respective articles. The book Major Companies of Europe 1993/94: Volume 2 Major Companies of the United Kingdom clearly shows this to be the case for two of the four: The National Bank of New Zealand and Lloyds Associated Banking Company (as Lloyds Merchant Bank). So, I still think the logo should probably not be used per No. 17 of NFC#UUI, but others may feel differently on this point. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:07, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I think this is a misinterpretation of NFC#UUI No. 17, which states: "The logo of an entity used for identification of one of its child entities, when the child entity lacks their own branding." These subsidiaries did not lack their own branding (as evidenced by the links provided above and at NBNZ), in the way that the Audit Panel, for example, lacks branding distinct from that of the London Assembly. See Report and Accounts (p. 5), Lloyds Bank Limited, 1977: "The Black Horse sign is now being progressively introduced throughout the Group as the symbol of our presence in countries across the world" and Report and Accounts (p. 13), Lloyds Bank Limited, 1978: "Our adoption of the Black Horse symbol in New Zealand has also assisted in identifying the National Bank with the Lloyds Bank Group" (both available from Companies House). As for use in the Lloyds Bank article, the logo is the subject of sourced commentary in the preceding section. 2.27.75.26 (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
The source discussing the "black horse" in the previous section does not discuss this particular logo at all. I don't think there's a need for another black horse logo in addition to the one already shown in the main infobox per WP:NFCC#3a. How would removing this non-free file be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the sentence "When the bank took over that bank in 1884, it retained the black horse as its symbol" per WP:NFCC#8?
As for the subsidiaries, I do think the case has probably been made for "National Bank of New Zealand", but I'm still not quite sure about the others. I have no problem, however, going along with whatever the consensus turns out to be.-- Marchjuly (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2016 (UTC); [Post edited by Marchjuly to correct spelling of "however" -- 13:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)]
As I said, I think this is a misinterpretation of NFC#UUI No. 17 for the reasons given above. I'm not clear how the case may have been made for NBNZ but not for the other subsidiaries. Why shouldn't they be treated in the same way? Should we remove the Banco Santander logo from Santander UK and other articles? What about the RBS Group logo at RBS and so on? I see that the HSBC logo is public domain under US law, but it is non-free in its home country. Should we remove that from the numerous articles in which it appears? With respect to Lloyds Bank, I have added some commentary which I hope will satisfy the requirements. 2.27.75.26 (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Trying to argue that other stuff exists is usually not a good way to try and justify non-free usage. There are lots of non-free files being used in lots of different articles and quite a large number of them are being used incorrectly. Moreover, a logo considered to be public domain in the US can be tagged with Template:PD-USonly and used as such on English Wikipedia. Not being in the public domain in its country of origin probably means that the logo cannot be uploaded to Commons, but that does not automatically mean it is subject to the NFCC on English Wikipedia. If you feel the usage of any of the other logos you mentioned does not comply with the NFCC, you can tag the file with Template:Di-disputed fair use rationale or nominate it for discussion at FFD. That's what we are doing here: discussing whether the usage of this image complies with the NFCC. The discussion is still open, so others may comment either way and whomever closes the discussion will read all which has been written and make their close according to WP:FFDAI. As for the statement "Lloyds' iconic black horse device was retained and modified to reflect the TSB merger." you added to the the "Lloyds Bank" article, I don't see why three non-free images showing a black horse are needed to understand the meaning of that. That is just my opinion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
We are indeed discussing whether usage of the image complies with NFCC, but you have asserted that it does not and I am disputing that assertion. These were separate companies. Are you really suggesting that they should not have their logo in the infobox because it was shared with the parent? If so, I think that is a misinterpretation of NFC#UUI No. 17 and I still do not understand how the case may have been made for one but not for the other subsidiaries. In terms of the Lloyds Bank article, I do feel it helps the reader to see how the logo was modified to reflect the TSB merger (the Lloyds TSB version has not been listed here). 2.27.75.26 (talk) 20:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar 22:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Firefly - Whitefall.jpg[edit]

File:Firefly - Whitefall.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Matthew (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no critical commentary associated with this image's usage in List of Firefly planets and moons, it is used solely for decoration. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:03, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Waterbury Dam.jpg[edit]

File:Waterbury Dam.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SNSAnchor (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Possible derivative of non-free content (text) FASTILY 18:59, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:MattSlaterPatsKR.jpg[edit]

File:MattSlaterPatsKR.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SNSAnchor (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, blurry/low-res, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 18:59, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:IvFearsPatsCoach.jpg[edit]

File:IvFearsPatsCoach.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SNSAnchor (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, blurry/low-res, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 18:59, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Valentine radiguet jean.jpg[edit]

File:Valentine radiguet jean.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Leopoldhw (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The license on this image is not correct, and I am not convinced it is free. Magog the Ogre (t c) 19:20, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Equestria Girls Legend of Everfree.jpg[edit]

File:Equestria Girls Legend of Everfree.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by EquestriaGirlsFan2003 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The file is orphaned and most likely non-free. The file description cites this website as the source of the image, and while that website does release its own content under CC-BY 4.0, the source makes it clear that this image is not its original content. The company Hasbro is the copyright holder, and only they may release this work under CC-BY, but there is no evidence that they have. Mz7 (talk) 20:51, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

  • I would also note that I don't think converting to fair use is the solution, as this was a pre-production image from months ago. An alternative, official logo is most likely available and better suited for the article than this image. Mz7 (talk) 20:53, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Bridging phosphinimide main group complex.jpg[edit]

File:Bridging phosphinimide main group complex.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Amandamariec (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, seems distorted, no encyclopedic use FASTILY 22:57, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

July 25[edit]

File:Richard Daniel Roman.jpg[edit]

File:Richard Daniel Roman.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fcbcn (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Overwritten file; the second file only is up for deletion. See c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richard Daniel Roman.jpg Magog the Ogre (t c) 03:48, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Nuru, Ghanaian rapper.jpg[edit]

File:Nuru, Ghanaian rapper.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Itspoojkins (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Promotional photo, dubious self-work claim FASTILY 06:27, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Evan Bayh (1).jpg[edit]

File:Evan Bayh (1).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tuliptoes (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Delete - unused file, low resolution. The lack of metadata and limited contrib history of uploader indicates this might not be the uploader's own work. Kelly hi! 08:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:AlexNuttallMP.jpg[edit]

File:AlexNuttallMP.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dinozone (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

ND clause is incompatible with Wikipedia. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:00, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:ArsiNamiNeverbelonelyleviwhalen.jpeg[edit]

File:ArsiNamiNeverbelonelyleviwhalen.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Easyheartforyou (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

I fail to see how an album cover is CC without additional sourcing/ OTRS Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:03, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Thorium half sandwich.png[edit]

File:Thorium half sandwich.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Double sharp (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Referral as the source listed is a recent textbook, Current license is PD-simple, and as this is a structural diagram I'd like a second opinion. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:21, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I see there is a license specifically for structural diagrams: {{PD-chem}}. Changed it to that one. Double sharp (talk) 13:02, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep Structural diagrams are PD-ineligible -FASTILY 04:04, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Nasuni logo.png[edit]

File:Nasuni logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Exdejesus (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is a logo, but license is CC-BY. Is this actually a simple logo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:36, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess I don't understand the possibilities. This is the company logo. It is a registered trademark. The company is granting rights to use the logo, so long as such usage doesn't infringe the trademark. Should it have a different kind of license? Thanks. Exdejesus (talk) 12:24, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

The concern was that one of 'threshold of originality', i.e it wasn't complex enough to be copyright. If the logo woners is releasing it, don't forget to send the paperwork to OTRS. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

okay, thanks! I'll have to look into that. Do you think it's okay to use as is? Until I figure out this end of it? Thanks.Exdejesus (talk) 12:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Tiny-olive-stone-boat-chen-tsu-chang.jpg[edit]

File:Tiny-olive-stone-boat-chen-tsu-chang.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Big Wang (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The art maybe old, but this appears to be a staged/lit photo. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

July 26[edit]

File:Looking south east at The Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg[edit]

File:Looking south east at The Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Looking west at The Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana by Charles Keck. Photo taken on August 2, 2008.jpg[edit]

File:Looking west at The Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana by Charles Keck. Photo taken on August 2, 2008.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:The Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg[edit]

File:The Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Back of the Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg[edit]

File:Back of the Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Detail of the Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg[edit]

File:Detail of the Lincoln Monument of Hingham, MA by Charles Keck. Photo from the SIRIS web page..jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Sculpture of Reubn Eaton by Bryant Baker 1934.jpg[edit]

File:Sculpture of Reubn Eaton by Bryant Baker 1934.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Sculpture of Reubn Eaton by Bryant Baker 1934 Long View.jpg[edit]

File:Sculpture of Reubn Eaton by Bryant Baker 1934 Long View.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RichardMcCoy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is no FOP for 3D works in the US; derivative of non-free content (statue) FASTILY 05:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Logo of 2016 AMJHC.jpg[edit]

File:Logo of 2016 AMJHC.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikiupdater1997 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Claimed as FAL, but text states - "No other edited version allowed for use." which is an ND term. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:01, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Hughie Gallacher.jpg[edit]

File:Hughie Gallacher.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bornintheguz (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There is an apparently free photo of this footballer at Commons. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Fort Massac River Side.jpg[edit]

File:Fort Massac River Side.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chitt66 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

No indication of copyright status at source. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Unplag Dashboard screenshot.png[edit]

File:Unplag Dashboard screenshot.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CdoggyCreep (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Querying why this is under non-free when Commons has an OTRS confirmed screenshot? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:2012 BWF logo.svg[edit]

File:2012 BWF logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Aleenf1 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Near identical duplicate is on Commons, but it's not an exact match. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Copyrighted material allow to upload in Commons? --Aleenf1 13:14, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Armagedon.jpg[edit]

File:Armagedon.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by EDGARTISTA (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, Album cover? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:34, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Fasoracetam.png[edit]

File:Fasoracetam.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mykhal (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, Commons has a slightly larger structural diagram from the chemical concerned (assuming it's accurate). Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

I have accepted the inivitation to this discussion, thank you for the correctness. I agree that the image is unused, it's a fact. Feel free to delete it. Or what is the point? --Mykhal (talk) 09:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Joan McKowen.jpg[edit]

File:Joan McKowen.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Orion 2012 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image of deceased person being used in Joan McKowen and Joan McKowen Memorial Trophy. Use in "Joan McKowen" seems acceptable per No. 10 of WP:NFCI, but the file lacks the separate, specific non-free use rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c. Images of deceased individuals are generally considered NFCC compliant in stand-alone articles about the individuals themselves, but usage in other articles is generally not allowed unless there is a strong contextual reason for doing so. The file's use in "Joan McKowen Memorial Trophy" does have a non-free use rationale, but this particular use seems decorative and not needed per WP:NFCC#8. Suggest keep for Joan McKowan (as long as WP:NFCC#10c is satisfied) and remove from the trophy article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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