Talk:Libertarian perspectives on immigration

Article Misleads to Imply that Immigration isn't disputed.

This article, and especially the lede, falsely implies that in the libertarian arena, the question of immigration is already decided, or even it was never contested in the first place. Nothing can be further from the truth. As recently as 2009, for example, Robert P. Murphy stated in http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2009/12/thoughts-on-libertarians-and-immigration.html "Immigration is one of the most hotly contested areas in libertarian theory and politics. In a short article like this I couldn’t hope to address all of the different arguments." This WP article suggests that only a very few people challenge the concept of 'open borders'. This might be traced to a tendency of libertarian late-comers, many from liberal and Democrat origins. As late as the 1996 Democrat party platform, it said: "Today's Democratic Party also believes we must remain a nation of laws. We cannot tolerate illegal immigration and we must stop it. For years before Bill Clinton became President, Washington talked tough but failed to act. In 1992, our borders might as well not have existed. The border was under-patrolled, and what patrols there were, were under-equipped. Drugs flowed freely. Illegal immigration was rampant. Criminal immigrants, deported after committing crimes in America, returned the very next day to commit crimes again. President Clinton is making our border a place where the law is respected and drugs and illegal immigrants are turned away. We have increased the Border Patrol by over 40 percent; in El Paso, our Border Patrol agents are so close together they can see each other. Last year alone, the Clinton Administration removed thousands of illegal workers from jobs across the country. Just since January of 1995, we have arrested more than 1,700 criminal aliens and prosecuted them on federal felony charges because they returned to America after having been deported." 67.5.192.40 (talk) 21:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't disagree with you on the "never contested" part, but you're completely wrong about who came first, and if you had read the article, you would've known that. In any case, if you're going to try and make the article more "neutral," cite your sources first. We don't do original research. Myconix (talk) 22:53, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Article has been manipulated over the last 1-2 years to remove anti-illegal-immigration positions.

I looked at the current article, and then the state of the article about 18 months ago, September 2016. I was surprised and dismayed that it had been edited to remove much well-sourced material which showed that some portion of the libertarian community has been opposed to the open borders concept. It's hard to imagine this was anything but deliberate. Perhaps some libertarian thinks the "correct" position ought to be open borders, but that is not the purpose of this article: The purpose is supposed to be, to exhibit various positions libertarians do take about open borders and immigration. Perhaps the cure is to replace various well-sourced materials that have been removed in the past. 2601:1C2:4E02:3020:4146:2231:C4F1:8E76 (talk) 17:09, 10 May 2018 (UTC)