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Untitled comment from 2.86.77.193 (title retroactively added)

Σαμαράς: Η ιδεολογία της ΝΔ είναι ο κοινωνικός φιλελευθερισμός https://tvxs.gr/news/%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B1/%CF%83%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%82-%CE%B7-%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82-%CE%BD%CE%B4-%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B9-%CE%BF-%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82-%CF%86%CE%B9%CE%BB%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%85%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%82

translation: Samaras: the ideology of ND is social liberalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.86.77.193 (talk) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your edits because you were blanking sections of this page without explanation, not because I disagreed with your assessment. I am no expert on Greek politics, but if you have facts cited by a credible source you can introduce them into the page. Deleting entire sections of pages without good reason is not acceptable. Aspening (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I keep bumping into you on Wikipedia, which means that you're doing an excellent job with locating and reverting vandalism and disruption. Thank you for volunteering your time and energy on Wikipedia and with patrolling recent changes. It's a thankless place to participate and it's definitely not for everyone. You're doing an amazing job; keep up the great work and please don't hesitate to message me on my user talk page if you need anything. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!! Aspening (talk) 02:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Aspening:I just had to stop by and say you are really fast on the revert. I've managed to bump into you several times! Keep up the great work! Operator873CONNECT 00:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Change

Hi there, thanks for being in touch. So I am new to Wikipedia Edit and was not sure how to add the citations for the two facts I added. Being a regular concert goer I'm aware of these facts but they can also be found in the links below. Could you please leave my changes up and maybe add the citations please? Or teach me how to do it ideally.

Don's kids are musical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX2E5jG88U

Confirmation of the two bases he lives in https://don-mclean.com/2010/08/23/don-mclean-with-son-and-band-members/

Hi DarrenRichmase, thanks for reaching out. For the first source, YouTube videos are generally not considered to be reputable sources by many editors. I would recommend finding something with more credibility, like a news article, about his music. For the second source, I'm only seeing a link to a picture of Don McLean with his son and band members. Are you sure you pasted the right link? Also, in the future, you can cite sources using the visual editor by clicking "Cite" on the toolbar. You can either paste a URL to create an automatic citation, or you can manually enter data from your source in order to cite it. Let me know if you have any more questions. Aspening (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you a lot

Thanks for thanking me. I always appreciate it. Rock on. UnsungKing123 (talk) 18:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for helping revert vandalism! Aspening (talk) 18:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled comment from 178.48.105.73 (title retroactively added)

It is sourced on Salbutamol's wikipedia page under 'doping'. Go read, and then maybe put that line back. It's odd to see there are a few people who are so much insisting on something poor and less informative and just make wikipedia a little worse place every time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.48.105.73 (talk) 18:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In order to introduce a fact into an article, it needs to be cited directly in that article. If you would like to add your contribution back in, citing an independent, reputable source (not another Wikipedia article), feel free to do so. Aspening (talk) 18:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shasta

Hello, My name is Andrew and I am from Kenya. I'd like to know what you Americans difine as a "reliable " sources, because in the summary I provided sources. Captchas won't load for me so I can't site it myself. thanks.

199.101.61.24 (talk) 21:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The sources you cited are not considered credible because they are blog/forum type sites. You can use the source code editor to cite your sources by using <ref> and </ref> tags, with an appropriate cite template. Copy the code from Template:Cite web and put it in between the <ref> tags. Also, not all users on this Wikipedia are American, just English-speaking. We have users from all over the world. Aspening (talk) 21:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I find it disrespectufl to my culture that Shasta's meaning as an African name is nowhere on Wikipedia. It's always Americans reverting me for bad reasons, and they revert me within seconds without looking at sources. I've edited from 19 locations around the world because I always move. Please tell me where I can put that Shasta is an African name meaning precious water, because it is.

199.101.61.24 (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did not revert you because of cultural bias. If you would like to add that information, please find a credible source. Examples could be from reputable news outlets, colleges/universities, etc. Aspening (talk) 21:56, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I tried the tags but they always give me a captcha that never works. 199.101.61.24 (talk) 21:57, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you try editing from another device, or using a different Internet browser? You can also create an account to edit, which might allow you to bypass captchas. Alternatively, you can make a post on the talk page of the article you're trying to edit with what you'd like to add and your source. Aspening (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would cerate an account, but I edit once in a while, and will forget the password. Please tell me where on the Shasta article I can mention that Shasta is an African name meaning "precious water"? This name has existed long before any people were in the deserts of the U.S.A. Also you have not defined what reliable means to U.S> people like yourself, and the policies are TLDR. They need a short version that non-native people like myself can understand. Though I came to North America from Kenya I was born in Armenia, and Armenian is my native tongue. 199.101.61.24 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled comment from 76.189.141.88 (title retroactively added)

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Duttaphrynus himalayanus, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. 76.189.141.88 (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop reposting warnings other users give you on their own talk pages. Aspening (talk) 21:46, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Untitled comment from 2600:1008:B145:B7CB:E1DC:1112:602E:7710 (title retroactively added)

She is a dude ma’am — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B145:B7CB:E1DC:1112:602E:7710 (talk) 01:37, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per consensus, please leave pronouns on Caster Semenya alone. Aspening (talk) 01:40, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed. Oops! Aspening (talk) 13:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sauron article

I do know that it should be in British English, but with Oxford spelling in this particular case, which uses -ize endings instead of -ise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.232.253 (talk) 14:26, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Checking MOS and not sure if there is a preference for Oxford spelling over standard British English. In that case, it's best to leave the article as is. Aspening (talk) 14:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The second paragraph here clarifies what I meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Strong_national_ties_to_a_topic. Also, in the beggining of the source of the article it specifies that "British (Oxford) English" should be used. Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.232.253 (talk) 14:40, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, sorry about that. Aspening (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Santos Cardona

You left me this message:

Hello, I'm Aspening. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Santos Cardona, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Aspening (talk) 02:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I guess you jumped at a conclusion without looking at the article and the change I made... And maybe you should go look up some basic math. The article states that he was born in 1974, BUT joined the Army at 17 in 1993, can you see the discrepancy? Look up things before you correct others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.181.21 (talk) 16:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I looked up the original source cited in the article. In the article, it states that Cardona was 34 years old at the time of his death. If he was born in 1976, it is impossible for him to have been 34 when he died in 2009, as someone born in 1976 would be turning 33 in 2009. It is, however, possible that he was born in 1974 and died before his 35th birthday, which would have been later in 2009. Another source, in external links, states that Cardona was 32 in November 2006, further supporting the 1974 birth date. It is more likely that there was an error in the case of a single source stating that Cardona was 17 at some point in 1993 than the case of two sources giving evidence suggesting he was born in 1974. News articles sometimes contain minor errors, and it appears as if the year he joined the army is incorrect. Aspening (talk) 17:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft talk:邯郸办证 领英.

Just a quick note on Draft talk:邯郸办证 领英. I declined your patent nonsense speedy deletion request -- you might want to review the criteria for WP:G1, as it clearly did not meet the criteria. However, it was a copyvio of another page[1], and I deleted it on that basis.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 02:17, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just tagged it as that because there was some nonsense on the bottom of the page and though it looked like a copyvio I didn't know how best to figure out if it was actually one or not. Aspening (talk) 02:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion contested: User talk:UDESHYA KASHYAP

Hello Aspening, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of User talk:UDESHYA KASHYAP, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G1 does not apply to user and user talk pages. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 20:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of duplicate template

Hullo, Aspening! I just wanted to let you know that you added a template to a userpage regarding blanking (to this page) which I reverte. I'm sure that you just didn't know that I reverted it instead, but I thought I would mention it for your information. Thanks for your help with vandalism! :) —zfJames Please add {{ping|ZfJames}} to your reply (talk page, contribs) 22:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like that was probably just Twinkle being weird and letting me give that person a warning despite the fact that you were the one to revert it. Sorry about that! Aspening (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


You are now a pending changes reviewer and rollbacker

Hi Aspening! I've been running into you in recent changes patrolling and I happened to notice that you don't have the rollback or pending changes reviewer user rights. I hope you don't mind, but I went through your contributions and I noticed that you're quite active in recent changes patrolling, and you consistently view and undo vandalism and disruption to articles. I believe that these user rights would be useful for you to have and that you'd make good use of both tools. Instead of having you formally request them at WP:PERM, I just went ahead and just gave them to you. These user rights allow you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes and quickly revert the edits of other users.

Rollback user right
Please keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle. It just adds a "[Rollback]" button next to a page's latest edits - that's all.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war. If abused or used for this purpose, rollback rights will be revoked.
  • Use common sense. If you're not sure about something, ask.
Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see this tutorial page.
Pending changes reviewer user right
The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection enabled is located at Special:StablePages. You may find the following pages useful to review:

I'm sure you'll do fine with these user rights - they're pretty straight-forward and they don't drastically change the interface look that you're used to, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into any troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of reviewer or rollback. If you no longer want either of these user rights, contact me and I'll remove them. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism and keep disruptive edits off of Wikipedia - it's a very thankless job to perform and I want you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed and that I appreciate it very much. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:58, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much! I had been meaning to ask for permissions but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Aspening (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whelp... Guess I saved you the time ;-). Like I said, if you have questions please don't hesitate to message me and ask. Thanks again for your hard work! See you out on the battlefield :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Context

I didn't realize the referenced content was still in the Dine Brands Global article. It was removed from IHOP, and if you read the IHOP talkpage, you will see that I was strongly discouraged from starting an RfC to ask the community if they would want to include it or not. I was not very happy with its removal given the weight of RS but decided to drop it for the sake of collegiality. Please reply here and ping me if you want to discuss further, or decide for yourself. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:21, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Noel-Baker Sch Update

Everything said was based on factual information. The school records for exclusion and absence by both students and staff are available from the school. The local Unions have records of the meetings and what was said by staff, and also the attempts to have communications with the Head and the LEAD Academy trust. The LEAD Academy Trust publicly does not recognise Union representation at its schools. The staff turnover can be seen in the school records and in the TES job supplement as well as on the school's own website. All the above is not conducive to a good education or work place for both students and staff. The above was supported by conversations by staff, students and parents but this was omitted from the edit because this could be deemed hearsay/opinion. What was written was based on verifiable fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.188.27 (talk) 16:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I saw multiple issues with your edit. First, there are no citations in it. Content added to Wikipedia must be backed up by a credible source, especially if controversial. In order to cite a source, you need to use inline citations to place a link to the source directly into the article. It also appears to use biased language, contrary to WP:NPOV, and you just said that you did not cite "conversations by staff, students and parents," which apparently backs up your claims, because it could be seen as opinion, which also violates the NPOV policy. Original research is also not allowed on Wikipedia. The edit summary says you visited the school to get the information you added, and having something "supported by conversations by staff, students and parents" appears to be both original research and adding opinions. Aspening (talk) 17:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The first undo may be valid for the reasons you give because of the restriction and rules adopted by WikiP and I'll admit I was not fully conversant with so apologies. I will try to edit with the information required etc, etc, However,you have just rolled back my latest edit which undid numerous mistakes on the page. These included spelling mistakes and very basic factual information that anyone locally knows about. I have a very intimate, first-hand knowledge and experience of the school. For example the Head GLYN JOHN was a friend of mine so I should know how to spell his name! Secondly there is no such person as Jim Neut as founder. That's simply a made up name and vandalism. It was Derby City Council that founded the school. Everyone local know that. You from your position cannot over-ride such basic information since to do so would bring WikiP into disrepute. This is a genuine attempt by myself to undo numerous errors on the page for the benefit of everyone who reads the page and to ensue that the history of Noel-Baker is correct. I have not finished my editing yet but if you are going to debate everything I am trying to correct then I may as well not bother. You simply click 'undo' while I have to write the content. For example Mrs Wilcox is no longer head of 6th form and has not been for several years. Mrs Gostick similarly. (It's Mrs P now.) It appears to me that it is you that is vandalising a genuine attempt to set things right and enhance the reliability of WikiP. I do appreciate your role and position but it has to come alongside a degree of understanding that some others may know much more about some situations/pages than you. Kind regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.188.27 (talk) 17:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have just read the WikiP info about a creditable source. How do I make myself a 'creditable source'? Who set up the page originally? It is way out of date and lacks up to date information. Many of the changes that need to be made cannot be verified by publication but simply need to be made by someone with an historical perspective and knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.188.27 (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal knowledge or info that "anyone locally knows" cannot be a credible source, as it violates the original research policy. Some examples of credible sources that can be cited in this case include the school website and local news articles. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it if you updated the out of date information using those sources. Aspening (talk) 18:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about you undoing your roll back and giving me time to apply some credible sources so that I don't have to rewrite everything? How can I make changes to things that don't have a 'credible source' or I don't have access to? I.e. Glyn John's birth certificate! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.188.27 (talk) 19:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need to undo my rollback for you to go in and change stuff. I did it to clean up some of the unsourced info. And you don't need a birth certificate to cite the correct spelling - you can just cite any credible source that says Glyn John was the head teacher in the 1970s and put it at the end of the sentence about his leadership. Go ahead and add in any referenced, relevant info you feel is necessary. Aspening (talk) 20:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you should use inline citations when possible. Use <ref> tags, and copy paste the base Cite web or Cite news template (found under "Usage" on those pages) in between those tags, filling in information about your citation as appropriate. I can help you out if you need. Aspening (talk) 20:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your rejection of the entry on Amwaj Islands

Hello, I had made an entry under the title of 'Amwaj Islands' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amwaj_Islands). It was about Jarada Islands and had the following content: "Jarada Island is one of the best attractions in Bahrain, golden sands and blue clear water, very clean sand and the best place to swim, the island appears in the ebb and disappears in the tide (ebb and flow)."

You rejected the addition by saying - "Hello, I'm Aspening. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Amwaj Islands seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Aspening (talk)"

I feel your deletion was misplaced as there was nothing in the content that didn't present a 'neutral point of view'. The entry is just a simple fact about an island. So request you to reconsider and accept the edit. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shazfaruqui (talk • contribs) 18:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Using language like "the best" to refer to something is not neutral. It's an opinion, not a fact, and inserting opinions into an article is a violation of WP:NPOV. Aspening (talk) 18:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I updated it without the term 'best', could you please accept/approve it now. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shazfaruqui (talk • contribs) 18:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The edit is both unsourced and still included a reference to it being "best." Aspening (talk) 18:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent revert on Punjab page

I did a typo: made and-->adn, I noticed that you reverted it in less than 4 minutes. Do you have it as part of your watchlist? I am a researcher on wikitechnology and we are trying to understand the dynamics behind it. I am a scientist from Punjab. Satsriakal - Sudarshan

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