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Christian terrorism

Hopelessly POV, and not a real term (only 452 unique entries on google). I can't see anything other than long dispute arising from this somewhat non-encyclopaedic page. Delete. jguk 22:15, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep: It might not be a valid term, but it is a valid concept. Needs to be expanded. DCEdwards1966 22:39, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, but the current version has PoV and style problems. Wyss 22:48, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. The article is well written and not hopelessly POV. Cleanup where necessary, do not dilute. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 23:05, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep with lots of Cleanup and a cherry on top. &#0xfeff;--fvw* 23:41, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
  • Keep. The title is no more inherently absurd than Islamic terrorism, although the phenomenon itself may be less common/acknowledged. I have good faith in my fellow Wikipedians to make a good NPOV article out of this, even if it means dealing with revert wars down the line. It's certainly an encyclopedic subject matter in that a significant number of people perceive it to exist. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 00:16, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Needs cleanup and non-POVing. jdb 01:16, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: When there are Christian terrorist groups, then there is a need for the term and coverage. At this point, the places where Christians are a minority have not yet had those Christians gather into terorist groups. They have been rebels (Lebanon), but not terrorists yet. Geogre 02:32, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. The title is not inherently absurd, but I disagree with Livajo, who feels that "a significant number of people perceive it to exist". As the low number of google hits shows, this is not a commonly recognized term or concept. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 02:35, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
    • Just because Google doesn't have a particularly high number of hits for that particular phrasing doesn't mean that significant numbers of people would not consider at least some of the acts mentioned in the article to be terrorism done in the name of Christianity. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 04:55, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
      • Burden of proof here is on you, I would say. Where are these significant numbers of people? Is there any evidence? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 17:51, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Concept is real, article does an above average job of NPOV in the version I just saw. More (hopefully NPOV) info should be added about "economic" terrorism, links between certain christian groups and charities support for "terrorist" dictators around the world (Nigeria, Central America, etc) and perhaps relationships with the "war on terrorism" generally. Does "terrorism" include state/group sponsored terrorism? zen master 02:45, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Good question. Yes it does. See Noam Chomsky: Distorted Morality: America's War on Terror? (a cheapo DVD): the question of Christianity aside, Chomsky points out that terrorism (as defined by the US) goes back at least as far as the carpet-bombing of Tokyo. Keep -- Hoary 08:01, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. Seems like a good idea for an article—Trevor Caira 03:11, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Seems legit to me. I'd also add some U.S. anti-abortion acts that are clearly and precisely terrorist acts by people who believe themselves to be acting in the name of Christ. -- Jmabel | Talk 03:18, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • That's right kids. God himself called me today (on the telephone) and asked me to contribute a holy EXTREME KEEP vote to this article. Amen. —[[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 07:36, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. I think this entire topic is rather suspect at this time. This does not appear to be a commonly used term, and most of the groups listed as examples are engaging in terrorist acts for reasons that are only partly related to religion and have more to do with complex politcal, social, and economic issues. Indrian 07:52, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. No more suspect than Islamic terrorism. --L33tminion | (talk) 21:21, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
    • Maybe so, but for better or worse Islamic terrorism is a topic that has been viewed by many as a phenomenon worth considering as part of a larger whole. I am not convinced that the concept of Christian terrorism is so widely recognized. Indrian 21:46, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - Has encyclopedic value, and enhaces the Terrorism category. --Zappaz 04:34, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep In every "religion" there is terrorism, also among other Muslim and Christian,too. Btw,jguk google is not the solution. --ThomasK 08:56, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, if Islamic terrorism can exist, then so can this. Shane King 00:36, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
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