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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Abbyjadali (talk | contribs) at 18:02, 8 April 2019 (→‎Deletion of MONQ Aromatherapy: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.


Block-evading IP hopper at Six Flags Great Adventure & Disney's Animal Kingdom

Hi, JamesB. Looks like all edits from IPs starting with 73. are acting on behalf of 173.61.138.18, which has been blocked until 20 June. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oshwah has already blocked the most recent vandal. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Skywatcher68: I've semiprotected the articles for a month. They have both been protected several times in the past, and it may be that long term protection is needed, but let's see how that works for now.
You may have noticed that I am not responding to your messages anywhere near as promptly as I used to at one time. That is because I am doing much less editing than I used to. You are still perfectly free to post messages to me, but just warning you that messages may hang around for quite a while before I get round to them. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of page about Vidyut Kale

I am from India and found the article page through Google only to see that it was deleted and read the page for why it was deleted.

I think this deletion was political vandalism. Vidyut Kale is a public figure on digital rights in India and has participated in internet rights movements in the country. She is something of a lone wolf and polymath supporting many campaigns in public interest, but there won't be significant organization related coverage of her because she is careful to stay independent of organizations and political parties. Being a woman, and opposing ruling party that controls most media, you will not find coverage for activists opposing government.

She opposes the ruling BJP in India with a notorious IT cell and is the subject of several targeted attacks from them. They have organized workers on all social media as well as Wikipedia. Some of the delete recommendations are by users whose history reveals edits of interest to the ruling party.

Some of the analysis of references is also not correct. You can verify for yourself.

For example, this article, that is analyzed as only mentioning her is interviewing her as among the early founders of the group intending to form a Pirate Party in India. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/Activists-bemoan-absence-of-active-Pirate-Party-in-India/articleshow/34542968.cms

This article is analyzed as her being mentioned in a "non-substantive, transitory sense" while discussing laws used for censorship in India. This is not correct, her case is being analyzed because she got defamation notices due to an expose of a scam. https://www.livemint.com/Leisure/VViKHUnyEZzuxOSQumBhEL/Free-Speech--Virtual-empowerment.html Another user calls it an advocacy piece because its sources include three major digital rights related organizations in India!

This article in an award winning publication with its own Wikipedia page (as pointed out by another user) is called an unreliable source in the analysis https://www.thefridaytimes.com/peace-after-pathankot/ what is important here is that this is a Pakistani newspaper quoting her on a subject of tension between India and Pakistan.

I contacted her before messaging and she is not interested in pursuing this, but as administrator, you should care that Wikipedia is being used to refuse credibility to dissenters by the fascist party in rule.

~ Preethi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.242.197.197 (talk) 21:43, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zebodee Fielder and IP 91.196.28.2

Hi James, Zebodee Fielder, set up today, appears likely to be opened by an IP specifically for disruption... see link where I have detailed this. The IP and Zebodee Fielder, and Mhe123456 who has also disrupted Bexhill High earlier this year, might of course be doing this from the school. The IP centres on East Sussex County Council in Eastbourne, next door to Bexhill, so the school's IPs could well come under the council. There may be a case for stamping on this before it becomes a more serious problem. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 10:41, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Acabashi: Thanks for telling me. Not only that IP address, but all IP addresses in a small range including that one have been doing nothing but vandalism for a long time, and it looks very much like vandalism from one or more schools. Also, several of the IP addresses in the range are either now blocked for vandalism or else have been in the past. I have therefore blocked the range for two years. Zebodee Fielder is very likely from the same school, as you suggest, but he has so far made only one vandalism edit, and you have warned him since then, so for now I am leaving him, but if he comes back with any more vandalism I will be willing to block, so do feel welcome to let me know if you see any more. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 13:44, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vidyut Kale at WP:DRV

Drawing your attention to the discussion on the AFD closure of Vidyut Kale at deletion review. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 17:49, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of page Kanthi D Suresh

Hey! I saw that you deleted a page I created. Yes, this page was indeed deleted in past as well and I had carefully read the deletion discussion and researched on subject. After that, I saw that there were many relevant references which were not present when the page was created and deleted in past. I used those references and created the page again. I feel that you didn't notice that the page was created absolutely fresh with all relevant citations. I don't remember if we have a rule where a page that was deleted in past can not be created again. I think I have created one or two and they were okay. I read G4,

"It excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies,"

The reason for deletion were no sources and relevant citations which is no longer applicable. Hence, I think, G4 should not apply. Would it be possible for you to check the new page that I had created and see the difference from the previously deleted draft? I am sure you will see why I thought that the page should be created. Thanks for your time!

Alivenkicking (talk) 16:47, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Alivenkicking: There is considerable disagreement as to exactly how similar a deleted page and a re-created version of it must be to fall under the description "substantially identical to the deleted version". I have my own view on that question, but experience over the years has convinced me that there is rarely anything to be gained by discussing the issue, so if you persist in asking me to restore the article then I will do so and immediately take it to a second deletion discussion. If that happens, the following points may be worth taking note of. Although the re-created article is not identical to the deleted versions, it has unmistakable similarity, both in terms of the structure of the article and in terms of its wording. (Indeed, there is sufficient similarity to leave me in no doubt that you had access to a copy of an earlier, deleted, version when you created it.) You have provided new references, but they are little if any better than the old ones. They include sources which are certainly not independent of the person who is the subject of the article (including one which is by her, not about her), sources which are so promotional in tone as to appear to also not be genuinely independent, and sources which do not give her substantial coverage. If a new deletion discussion should lead to deletion again, which is likely, then it would achieve nothing apart from wasting time for you, me, and everyone else who would take part. I also get the impression from your editing history that promotion or advertising may be your principal, or even only, purpose in editing Wikipedia. I see that you have already received messages informing you of the situation regarding promotional editing, conflict of interest, and paid editing, so I will not repeat that information here, but you should take note that you are likely to be blocked from editing if you continue to edit in ways that appear to be promotional, whether you regard it as promotional or not. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@JamesBWatson: Thanks for your response on this! If you do feel that the subject doesn't cross the notability mark and doesn't have enough relevant citations that it can be on Wikipedia, I definitely don't see a point of restoring it. I have absolutely no intentions of wasting anyone's time on anything that has no future. On your comment on my access to content, it was publicly available on a different encyclopedia website : https://wikimili.com/en/Kanthi_D._Suresh
I believe they copied and created it when the page was alive in past. Nonetheless, I truly appreciate your time in clarifying on the matters of this page and I will further take care to ensure that my edits aren't perceived promotional.
Alivenkicking (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

Technical news

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Miscellaneous

  • Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
  • As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pair of socks (at least)?

Whenever you have time, you should look into 273 & 283. There might be more. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Skywatcher68: I've blocked those two, and I haven't found any more. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of MONQ Aromatherapy

Hello! I saw that you deleted a page that I created about MONQ Aromatherapy portable diffusers. I can understand why it was deleted, it did seem a little like an ad, and I didn't realize that I couldn't use the companies website as a source. I was wondering if I could re-create this page to make it much more neutral to just talk about the company and their mission? Thank you.

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