User talk:Kautilya3

Now the socks have been blocked, I've pretty brutally taken the chainsaw to Nizams of Hyderabad, and had a poke at Mir Osman Ali Khan. I may have accidentally eaten something of value (indeed, something added by you); I certainly won't take it amiss if you undo bits of what was a quick and radical excision. Pinkbeast (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on Kamma Caste Article

Hello Kautilya, Thank you for your commitment to ensuring fair and unbiased standards in Wikipedia articles, especially caste ones. Though I have a concern. If you look at Reddy one and compare it to the Kamma one it’s clearly an unfair construction. In the Reddy one it states, “At one time they were a warrior caste and later became feudal overlords and peasant proprietors.[1][2] Historically they have been the land-owning aristocracy of the villages.[3][4][5] Traditionally, they were a diverse community of merchants and cultivators.[1][6][7] Their prowess as rulers and warriors is well documented in Telugu history.” The Kamma starts of by saying that are simply agricultural families and doesn’t discuss their warrior status, like the Reddi article. Moreover, the Reddy article has many notable and well deserved historical leaders mentioned, but Kammas aren’t able to mention Pemmasani Ramalinga Naidu, Venkatadri Naidu, or other notable historical members from the group in the respective sections. When someone adds them or anything speculative, it’s instantly removed, despite the facts that the Reddies speculate to be Rashtrakutas on their page. The Reddies have phrase “analagous to Kshatriyas”, but the Kammas, despite having the same social status don’t have it on their Wikipedia page. The same thing goes for the Velama article where it proudly mentions their zamindari ancestry (though Kammas have them do to) but neglect to mention to their agricultural status. Why can’t the same standards apply to both communities? Why can’t we cite the historians who believe Kammas are descended from the Kamboja Clan or a mixture of Haihayas, Durjayas, Chalukyas, and Chodas. Why can’t we Note their “analagous to Kshatriyas” in the Varna status like it’s done for Rajus. Why can’t Kamma zamindaris be referenced like the Velamas? Why can’t pictures of Gandikota or the Battle of Raichur (which Krishnadevaraya credited to Pemmasanis) be put in the Kamma article. We can make it clear that it’s speculative. I want to work with you on this. I’m not going to hide the fact that I’m a Kamma, but I hope you can see why this is unfair. Will you work with me on a reasonable basis to fix this? I have done research and have a list of primary source and reliable documents that meet Wikipedia standards. I trust you to help me with this. Vivek987270 (talk) 02:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]