Talk:Kaveri River water dispute

References, Inaccuracies etc.,

The entry does not talk provide any data to substantiate. Important data are the agricultural area benefitting from Kaveri waters in both states from 1800s to 2000s. This will show all the truth abouth who humungously increased the areas, and who has been serverly constrained end.

The logic behind british government giving Veto to presidency of madras, all can be traced just to that data.

Also there are complete factual irregularities, like Pondicherry being carved out of madras presidency.

Yes. There ARE indeed factual inaccuracies. There is indeed some information that needs to make it into the article. that is exactly why i have the underconstruction tag there.
As for the agricultural area benefiting both states, it is there. i dont know if you deleted it when you edited it, but i had mentioned the areas. As it stands today, it is 11 lakh acres for K and 28 lakh acres for TN.
In any case, the article is far from complete, especially the events from 97-98 to 2006 are yet to make it into the article. Your reverting the article to your version is not helping me in finishing the article. Please refrain from doing so. In the next couple of weeks, I will be adding all the references, citations etc and also hopefully expand the article to cover the developments from 97-98 to 2006 also. I urge you to refrain from editing or reverting the article repeatedly. Sarvagnya 15:52, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The data as it stand does not make any sense to the issue. Give the data, which says karnatka had just few hundred acres of Kaveri water irrigated land, and TN had 70 lakh acres. Provide information of how mass displacement had been effected and how lives of millions of farmers have been affected by the reduction of 70Lakh acres to 23 Lakhs, purely due to the greed of a set of fanatics. I urge you to finish with this one sided propoganda ASAP so that, i can revamp it completely.

Request to fellow editors

Please note that to the best of my knowledge none of the data in the article is "Original Research". If you find anything which you think is WP:OR or WP:POV, please discuss it on the talk page before you edit.

The information in this article has been collected from dozens and dozens of sources though the bulk of it might be from around half a dozen articles. So I request you to please go through atleast all the references provided in full detail. I will be adding many many external links in the days to come.

Some of the information(these instances are very rare) may vary between sources. In such cases, I've used the version cited by most people/sources, in other words I've used the most popular version.

The article badly needs some tables and pictures to enhance clarity. I will be adding couple of tables, but if somebody can help me with the pictures, I'll be grateful. For the pictures, its my guess that pics from newspaper articles can be used claiming 'fair use' because, I've seen such pics being shared across articles. For instance, I came across a pdf file about this issue which was in French but had used pictures from The Hindu.

The info about 2002-2006 is unreferenced as yet and I have written it from memory(of all the things I've read in the last many weeks). So there may be minor inaccuracies which I will fix in course of time.

Regarding 1991 riots, unfortunately, not much information is forthcoming on the internet, mainly because there was no internet those days and also because online archives of newspapers like The Hindu and the Deccan Herald dont go that far back. I have made only a mention of the riots and I'll be adding a few more lines now. Whatever info we find about it on the internet, unfortunately is limited to stating the fact that horrible riots took place and many were killed. But even with such things as the number of killed, number displaced etc., there is some disagreement between different sources.

Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change

On second thoughts, I feel we should rename "Kaveri River Water Dispute" to just "Kaveri Dispute". I am not sure how to go about it. Please share your thoughts. Thanks. Sarvagnya 01:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible POV

Hi, Consider below sentences which can be termed POV or harsh commentery , try to put them in milder tone.

While the state of Tamil Nadu has historically enjoyed a vastly greater usage of the waters compared to Karnataka, Karnataka on the other hand feels that it is being denied its fair share of the waters

however, thanks to the genius of Sir.M.V and the foresight of the King

In other words, it was made clear once again that British (and hence Madras) interests came first and scant regard, if any, would be shown to competing interests.

Karnataka ’s irrigated area was a mere 4.2 lakh acres

The one sided nature of the so-called agreement was there for everyone to see.

Karnataka was thus forced to accept the interim award

Tamil Nadu slapped another contempt petition on Karnataka

the Karnataka government in open defiance of the order of the CRA

This also however, fell on deaf ears...

Mahawiki 03:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason I feel this whole article is too lopsided in support of Karnataka.

Making the above mentioned statements of Mahawiki to milder tone, does not make this a neutral article. This is still a very loopsided article, nothing short of a Karnatka propoganda. There are only two options available, either to have the NPOV tag in this article, or change the title to "Kaveri River Water Dispute - Karnataka point of view". If the author tries to put all onsided view, concealed as neutral views, it is unacceptable and unethical, against the values for which wikipedia stands for. As i mentioned in the first comment on the edit page, the "Kaveri water dispute" does not need a big article with so many words, One table in the following structure encompasses everything that is there about the dispute. If the author can provide this information in the article, then NPOV tag can be removed. Else the NPOV tag has to remain in this one sided article

	Karnataka	Tamil Nadu	Kerala	Pondichery	Total
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1800
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1850
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1900
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1925
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1950
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1960
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1970
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1980
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 1990
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 2000
Basin Area of Agriculture benefitig from Kaveri waters (in km²) in 2006

	Karnataka	Tamil Nadu	Kerala	Pondichery	Total
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1800
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1850
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1900
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1925
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1950
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1960
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1970
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1980
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 1990
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 2000
Number of people dependent on Kaveri water for livelihood (in 1000s) in 2006