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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 208.134.206.95 (talk) at 23:09, 13 December 2006 (hey). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Note For any messages you leave on my talk pages I will respond here, if I have left a message on your pages, you may reply there and I will keep an eye on your page for a couple of days.

I must admit that I was quite disappointed to see that you withdrew; whilst additional criticism apropos of your perceived lack of substantive mainspace contributions may perhaps have betided, I don't think it to have been clear that your request would have been unsuccessful. For my part, I was altogether happy to see a candidate for adminship who seemed well to understand what qualities are rather auspicious in a prospective admin, and I think your replies to Oleg and me, inter al., evidenced the sound judgment and deliberative temperament for which most users look in a candidate for adminship (which judgment, I suppose, was also demonstrated by your withdrawal, to the extent that such withdrawal sought to prevent the community from having to partake of an RfA that was ostensibly [at least in the views of some] destined to produce no consensus). I cannot imagine that the net effect on the project of your becoming an admin would have been other-than-positive, and so I think it fair to say that the net effect of your withdrawal is negative. Best of wishes in any event... :) Joe 22:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your very kind message. Knowing how RfA's go, there would be very little chance of it passing and once the crazy russian steps in, there's alot of votes are swung by his comments. Trying to respond to each oppose would be like trying to stop the Titanic sinking with a puncture repair kit. If I'd left it, after a couple of days more editors would be just piling on the votes relying on the investigative work of the orginal voters hence all the as pers, I don't think I would like the ignominy of it all. I do feel quite bruised by the whole affair though, I hadn't really prepared for the criticisms that get levelled, and I was proud of my work. Hence as I said in my RfA if it gets stressful walk away, which is what I've done. I had just intended to sit in the background and get on with my work with the extra privileges , but unfortunately the fact that this is an encyclopedia means that alot of reviewers have a requirement for encyclopedic entries, which really isn't my forte. I love to read them but writing them...... Anyway thanks again for taking the time to leave a message, it's been very much appreciated. See you around. Best regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 23:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to see you don't plan to try again. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 15:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you clarify why you chose delete instead of Transwikification? The transwikification won't have any ill effects on the quality of the pike article and still removes the material from Wikipedia while putting it where it belongs (on WikiBooks). - Mgm|(talk) 11:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: RfA: Khukri

I must say that I also was sorry to see you withdraw so quickly. RfA's certainly do have a tendency to snowball, and it is a shame when it happens to good editors. Despite the objections those who opposed your RfA, I hope you consider running again when the time is right. I am very impressed with your work and you obviously possess the demeanor and level-headedness that I look for in an admin. When the time comes, I would even be happy to nominate you, as I feel strongly that your RfA should have passed this time. -- Renesis (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC) P.S. When I have a minute I will be working on the spam UWT's, and I would be happy to take care of any editing of the protected templates that you need. Just let me know.[reply]

Yes, i agree. You withdrew so quickly. Major edits are important, but the most important one is to be neutral and helpful. That's it. Next time wait till the end. Regards. E104421 19:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Minor Barnstar
For your efforts to help new users and encouragements. E104421 22:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for the support guys, as I said to Joe, it is sincerely appreciated. If I did apply again, I'd have to work on getting my main space edits up, which from my point of view negates what we are doing here. Some on the RfA believe that being an administrator is like being part of the boy scouts where you have to fill a certain amount of criteria before you get your fire lighting badge or whatever, not whether you are specialised in a certain area. I said before, I can write, I can organise, but can I do articles as well as alot of other editors. I doubt it. There's one editor I see frequently on RfAs, who opposes people solely because they have no image experience. It's like school exams these days, the gauge of ones RfA should be not about having the knowledge to hand, but knowing where to find the information in case you are called to help. Also to have some 4,000 edits and looking back, nigh on 2 years experience, an editor assumes because I don't decheck my minor edit box is because I don't know how it works is somewhat insulting. I choose major edits to be new articles and complete re-writes, and that applies to talk pages, project pages etc, but every edit from know on is a major one unless it's spelling etc. Editors sometimes forget the very tenant of wikipedia of WP:IAR, what I do and how I conduct myself on wikipedia is how I choose, though it has to be within concensus. So in short an editor should be gauged on their respective work, productivity, usefulness to the community and not if one checks a box or not, and I think any future RfA's of mine would be received in exactly the same way. Have no fear I don't intend to have a tanty and throw the toys out of the cot shortly followed by the cot out of the window. I'll continue what I'm doing in the knowledge it helps Wikipedia and I can work in the direction I wish. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 08:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I see you seem to sort-of-run Wikipedia:Wikiproject user warnings. I would like to propose a standard for all user warnings -- can you point me to the preferred place to do that? Thanks, tgies 06:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problems at all. On the project main page is a link to the harmonisation page, leave your proposal there. Have a good look through the existing overview page, and the template example that's already been created. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 20:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching, etc.

Are you ready to get started?

The waiting time over at Admin coaching is long (some people have been waiting in line since July). I'm an admin coach with the project, and for my students I set up a group discussion page so that we could all learn from each other. The scope of this concept has expanded into the Virtual classroom, which is an open forum for the teaching and learning of advanced Wikipedia skills.

Anyone and everyone is welcome to participate, as a student, as a coach, or both. Every week or two a new major topic of discussion or classroom assignment is introduced, usually with a guest writer who presents his or her expertise on the current subject and who remains on hand to answer questions. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the discussions, such as sharing your expertise, asking and answering questions, etc.

The current topic of discussion is vandalism, and our guest writer is Budgiekiller.

All discussions are open-ended, so all previous discussion topics and classroom assignments are still there for viewing and further participation. There are also sections for posting miscellaneous topics and questions, requesting coaching assistance, etc.

In addition to inviting those who would like to learn, I routinely invite experts from all over Wikipedia to come and contribute for the benefit of all. The VC is rapidly turning into a clearing house of the best resources, methods, and techniques known for working on Wikipedia.

You are cordially invited to participate.

Here's an announcement box which you can place on your userpage or at the top of your talk page for keeping up to date with classroom assignments.

I hope to see you there. Sincerely,  The Transhumanist    08:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC) [reply]

RAW is Owen

I wasn't vandalising it, I wanted to put a deletion tag on it, I don't know how to as it has been nominated before. Can you help me? 86.20.53.195 18:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goto WP:AFD and this will answer all your questions, any further probs, don't hesitate to give me a shout. Khukri (talk . contribs) 18:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Khukri, just a note: This page was previously kept (no consensus) at AfD, and I've recently had to protect it from moves. Not sure if the would-be nominator here and the mover are one and the same, nor why the existence of this page is so controversial. Deizio talk 18:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've left the anon IP a message, so thanks. From my part all I have seen is an anon IP with a light hiostory of vandalism, hence I reverted the blanking as it had no edit commentary. I'll keep an eye on the IP, if there's no further vandalism or gets involved in discussion as you suggest then I'll remove the warning. Thanks Khukri (talk . contribs) 18:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have written this on Khukri's page, and I'm writing it on yours, RAW is Owen is a normal RAW, except it's just special because of Owen. Last week's RAW won't be remembered for ever will it? 86.20.53.195 18:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Getting you an admin coach

Hi Khukri. According to our request page, you are at or near the top of the list. Would you still like a coach? If so I will match you with one. Please let me know. Thanks! --Fang Aili talk 18:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think your attitude is great, actually. Adminship shouldn't be an end goal, but just something you get to fairly naturally. I'd like to match you with User:Martinp23. I'll let him know you're his "student". If you have any questions please let me know. --Fang Aili talk 18:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! I'm just introducing myself as your "coach" for the admin coaching scheme. As you may know, I've been an admin since mid-November, and have to say that in this time, I've elarnt a lot more than anyone could have told me beforehand, and I hope to pass some of this on to you. To get the ball rolling, feel free to ask me any questions on my talk page, prior to me setting up a proper admin coaching page somewhere (at the weekend probably :)). It would be helpful if you could give me a rough idea of what you're looking for in admin coaching, be it an understanding of policies, ways to get more involved, example of admin work or help with an RfA (or anything else, or everything - if I don't know it, I'll find out!). Thanks, Martinp23 19:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well ahead of ya....

Saw it and blocked immediately :) Thanks for letting me know anyway  Glen  19:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


BerksGuy

I'm want you to know that if this user keeps it up with his lies about me on his user/discussion page and you continue to condone it I will resort to Legal action to solve the problem. The guy is a political hack for the mayor of Reading, PA, and is resorting to character smears. This does not belong on Wikipedia, and he needs to take it elsewhere. Thank You. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mheckman1978 (talkcontribs) 02:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Note: User blocked by Glen S. Khukri (talk . contribs) 08:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and help reqd for vandalism

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my page.Your Patrols have been very good.It is due to people like that Wikipedia goes on.Keep it up and thank you.

1:There is a page called Periyar Ramasami .Here It is potentially libellous allegations without any any citations which I have asked for.The wording are not encyclopedic. Periyar being likened to Hitler is potentially libellous as Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths whereas Periyar was not guilty or accused of even one. Please go through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar_Ramasami#Leader_of_Dravidar_Kazhagam Can I remove comments like those ? This Page has been vandalised many times the last one by

2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_Education_Policy This has been vandalised by the same person from 3 IP address

  • 161.12.7.4
  • 80.195.10.170
  • 59.144.22.95

Please refer to this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Harlowraman&diff=94068203&oldid=94063562 The user wants the page deleted.I requested the user to do Positive edit and he wants Government relating to documents from 1952 now all government documents,Cabinet decisions of all policies taken prior to the Computer/internet era are not available online and worldwide and you can check the government site http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm . I requested him to Please do a positive edit by describing your point of view regarfor this http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm ding the Educational system reforms of Rajaji between 1952-1954 and not Negative edits ie by removing content as it has been done 6 timesbut even today it was vandalised.Please help

can I have this page protected ? Thanks again for your help.Harlowraman 17:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I'm not an admin so I can't protect a page, however I would be very surprised if an admin would protect the page, as it's not being vandalised enough. I know this is not what you want to hear, but I have a number of pages on my watchlist that I just simply keep an eye on and that's what I suggest you do here. As for the content, the third paragraph is badly written with no references and contradictions such as It is not clear what he learnt from Hitler's Germany, but it is certainly true that the Dravidar Kazhagam was patterned after the Nazi Party. But I think you are reading words into it that aren't there with the likening to Hitler, and it's just a collection of comparisons between the parties. You've done well keeping the dialogue open and all I would suggest you take it to the talk page, and try and resolve it there. If you discuss the issue then you are are taking the moral high ground, and any other editors who wish to carry out disruptive edits, will be dealt with quickly by editors such as myself, if they are not open to dialogue. So to finish if you don't like what is written, I suggest you continue to ask for discussion on the talk page give your reasons for what you don't like, offer an alternative and seek concensus, remembering to WP:AGF and keep above the pettyness. Any further problems don't hesitate to get in touch. Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 18:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!!

Hey man,

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my talk page. Nice to see somebody on the ball even when I'm sound asleep. Maybe we'll run across each other in the future, since I do RC patrol, too. =) Have a great rest of your day! – Lantoka (talk) 18:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

blasted

The previous entry on Blasted which I amended was, I think the work of a rather naive a-level student. Did you read it? It was naive and laughable. I think Sarah Kane and Wikipedia are worth rather more. It was also out of keeping with your other entries on her work. A very lengthy and not very accurate plot description. Feeble and inaccurate character analysis. A dimwitted attempt at summing up the 'meaning' of the play. This is not just my view. Read anything else that has been published about her. And compare it with this entry. I happen to think Sarah Kane is worth more. But keep it as it is, if you want. You just make Wikipedia look stupid, that's all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.70.138 (talkcontribs)

First of all, I would like you to read one of the principle tenants of wikipedia Assume Good Faith. Then would like you to explain to me how your edit here is any different to the thousands of deletion vandalisms we get every hours, you left no edit summary there is no discussion of your deletions on the talk page. Insulting me or wikipedia does your cause no good, if you read my user page it says I do make mistakes, but leave me a polite message and I will help you. But unless I recieve an apology then the warning will stand. Khukri (talk . contribs) 22:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hey, srry idk who u are but i acidently deleted some info. om memory........srry again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.161.180 (talkcontribs)

hey

hi how do i creat a brand new page??