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The term 'center' in this case is incorrect. It should be 'centre', center being the middle of a circle. Centre being a building or gathering place.

203.91.245.98 22:37, 6 December 2005 (UTC)Dean[reply]

Re LAN Gaming Center

The terms Center or Centre means the same thing. Just depends on where you live. Canadians use Centre while Americans use Center. --Arobertson 21:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The external links should stay. iGames and the other LAN Center listing sites provide valuable information. If you are trying to prevent businesses from promoting themselves, then you should also remove the photographs of any existing LAN Gaming Businesses. Also remove the all of the links in the LAN Gaming Description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.106.129 (talkcontribs) 02:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree about the value of external links that don't supplement the encyclopedic content of an article. Wikipedia is not a link repository. It may be helpful to review the external links guidelines and, again, discuss individual links here before adding them back into the article. JonHarder 13:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

JonHarder We all disagree with you and your link removal, the links provide a huge resource of information about LAN centers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.93.251.114 (talkcontribs) 21:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument isn't with me so much as with Wikipedia guidelines. First, Wikipedia is not a link repository. That means articles shouldn't be a collection of links like say, DMOZ. Wikipedia needs more content (article text), not links. The other factors are the guidelines concerning external links and linking to commercial sites. I don't have a problem with you adding the encyclopedic links back, but first verify that they fit the previous guidelines and then add those that pass the test back one by one. There are several in that list that have no other purpose but to promote a site or business. Do not continue to revert, as you are destroying work that has happened inbetween. Finally, there have been two other editors also reverting your attempts to replace the links and there will be others if you continue to put the spam back in. JonHarder 22:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The external links should stay, the links blend with the article and provide a valuble resource to all of us. Do not continue to revert, as you are destroying work that has happened and I'm also sick of coming to find you have blanked this article. Freakdomination
And I'm tired of seeing unhelpful links added and put back into the article! I'm an old guy and not very bright, but to me, all of those links, including one used as a citation, just look like the kind of blatantly promotional sites discouraged by Wikipedia guidelines. They don't help me understand more about LAN Gaming Centers. Can you explain to me, and the several other editors who have been removing them, how they fit into the WP:EL guidelines? I prefer to see the links come out and that you and other editors concentrate on expanding the content of the article, including adding the source of your information. If by "destroying work" you mean removing the street address of a particular center, that is a level of detail that is not helpful in an encyclopedia. It should come out! JonHarder 23:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


"Blending with the article" is not one of the criteria of WP:EL; you might want to actually read it. And there are now three experienced editors calling for removal of these links. Anyone who wants to find gaming centers can do so via a Google search. -- Mwanner | Talk 23:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't call yourself experienced considering you have no idea what your doing when it comes to editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freakdomination (talkcontribs) 23:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(Please sign your posts with ~~~~.) I may not be very bright, but I still prefer other editors to be civil, even when they disagree with my point of view. You are not building the kind of trust that is needed to work collaboratively. Do you want to try that response again? I know you can do better. And it's OK to admit that just maybe the concensus is building against you and it is time to contribute to Wikipedia in other ways than linking to external sites. JonHarder 03:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The LAN center links are simply a directory listing, which Wikipedia is not. --Siobhan Hansa 02:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that, but the other links, such as to iGames, are still a good resource. Kopf1988 19:20, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're right Kopf1988 - I should have been less trigger happy on the revert of those links. Sorry. --Siobhan Hansa 21:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree all the links should stay the all offer something unique and they aren't trying to sell anything. 4.234.15.242 19:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All sorts of things are unique and useful to someone, but they don't add encyclopedic value. And a directory is definitely not what Wikipedia is supposed to be. If you want to ignore Wikipedia policy you need to show why the LAN center article is different from other subjects in Wikipedia that could do the same, and how allowing a directory of LAN centers would make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. --Siobhan Hansa 21:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like the way this discussion is moving, but I suggest that the remaining links be replaced with

{{dmoz|Computers/Internet/Cybercafes/Gaming/|Cybercafe gaming}}

This site also has many of the deleted links and anyone should be free to add their favorite links to that site. It is the solution used in many articles to solve this sort of problem. Does anyone see a problem going in this direction? JonHarder 00:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that's a lot better then listing them here, at any rate. Kopf1988 20:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DMOZ is completely unreliable considering they are always down and is not worth even listing here, the external links should be put back. If your looking to stir up more link trouble head over to LAN party Freakdomination 04:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. I've cleaned it up. JonHarder 05:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked at the DMOZ index now and it looks fine and works fine. Suggest you try again. Your attempted deletion of a discussion on the administrators noticeboard could however be construed as stirring up trouble. Please don't do that again. — Moondyne 06:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well maybe you should look again, so you can find out dmoz is broken indefintly and those pages are only static. check the forums at dmoz Freakdomination 07:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
using the igames directory should be sufficient since the dmoz directory doesn't work. Freakdomination 07:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you have a problem with your computer. I checked again and its working fine. Your link to igames has been removed as it is spam. — Moondyne 08:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you are just looking hard enough... http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45325 Freakdomination 08:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(resetting indent) dmoz not working isn't a reason to add the links back in - Wikpipedia is not a directory. The dmoz link is a sop. If it's not working there's no problem with getting rid of it and having this simply be an encyclopedia article, instead of a place for LAN gaming participants to use as a directory. External links should be to sites that add encyclopedic value, a list of currently open gaming centers isn't encyclopedic information. --Siobhan Hansa 12:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a certain few editors are looking to single out this article for some reason take a look at LAN party and see if that article follows the wikipedia guidelines. 66.93.251.126 06:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

editprotected

Someone should:

  • Add {{vprotected}} to it.
  • Possibly lowercase the last two words, as they are not proper nouns.

Thanx. 68.39.174.238 22:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The template has been added. Are you referring to the title? Makes sense to me. Anyone know of a valid reason why it should be capitalised? And the same question about Video Game Center ? -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:26, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]