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also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mary_Kay_Letourneau#Additional_sources_not_yet_used_in_the_article



suspended prison term

name

Mary Kay is a pseudonym of a well-known individual named Mary Fulaii.

  • The Seattle Post-Intelligencer "Mary+K.+Letourneau" consistently calls subject Mary K. Letourneau.
  • "now goes by the name Mary Fualaau."
  • BLP subject is a verified editor, and Wikimedia has a photocopy of her state-issued identification. The verified user has specified their name. Can the foundation confirm their name?
  • MOS:LEGALNAME says subject's name should appear first in article. "For people who are best known by a pseudonym, the legal name should usually appear first in the article."
  • Subject described this name as "only the media calls me that".( FIND THIS QUOTE BY MARY) Subject's middle name is Katherine, and as a child, Kay was a family nickname.
  • subject claims MKL does not appear on any court document.
  • "Mary to her friends"
  • In 2001, the Court TV (now TruTV) television series Mugshots released an episode about Letourneau's case titled "Mary K. Letourneau and Vili Fualaau"

Conclusion: The tabloids took her name and changed it.

  • Spyglass Hill article specifies harassment from other prisoners due to subject's 'celebrity' status.

Letourneau Marries Fualaau:

  • Amid "Media Circus"
  • "camera crews and a news hellicopter"
  • "metal detectors"
  • "INTERNATIONAL media attention"
  • Former Student: "romance began: Fulaau HAD BEEN in her sixth-grade class."
  • Suspended sentence: "Judge suspended much of her sentence."
Crime news or entertainment?

some crimes turn subjects into national fascinations. It's noteworthy that quasi-news venues like Inside Edition and People made events in the subject life into copy, and were often also loose with the facts. This subject became a target of international interest almost immediately. We don't need to speculate or understand exactly why. There's clearly an audience that demanded exactly this kind of low-brow, low-bar info-tainment. Coverage in the legitimate press is much more routine, but it is solidly there on a national level, also. There were zigs and zags of the subject's life reported in the local press that were only deemed newsworthy because the subject and subject's relationship had been deemed generally newsworthy over about a decade of time. This is, I suppose, notoriety. Are there better words? Fascination? Attention garnered from a crime is typically known as notoriety.

  • international attention
  • 100 reporters at first sentencing - international
  • 125 reporters at second sentencing
  • targeted by delusional strangers
  • "throng" of reporters when released from prison.
  • seven years later, released in night amid reporters and people waving crazy signs
  • registered as sex offender in locked office amid "swarm" of media reporters
  • "By the end of February 1998, only President Clinton's relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky was prompting more letters to the editors of Seattle newspapers. The Seattle Times put the tally for the month at 197 letters on Clinton and 93 on Letourneau."
  • The debate has been kept alive by the publication of four books, including Gregg Olsen's If Loving You Is Wrong: The Shocking True Story of Mary Kay Letourneau (published in 1999, reissued in 2004, and so far translated into 11 languages)"
  • Letourneau left prison under the same spotlight that shone on her when she arrived. Representatives of the Today show, Oprah, Primetime, Inside Edition, and news organizations in Great Britain, France, and Germany were among those on stakeout when she was released from the Washington Corrections Center for Women near Gig Harbor on August 4, 2004.
  • Fualaau sold some of the letters to tabloids.

Many commit similar crimes. Few receive this degree of intense, sustained, global attention. It's even reasonable to suspect the degree of attention has been a contributing factor to the outcome of these events.

The story also includes multiple instances where the unusual level of attention caused unusual results. Said Salon, "The scandals on the scale of Letourneau... expertly catalogs the corrosive role the media played in the affair."

We need to acknowledge the unusually high visibility of this criminal.

Some kind of both fascination and notoriety among national and some international "scandal news" audiences is a substantial facet of this subject's story. I'm reminded of Italy's obsession with the American Amanda Knox. words that come to mind are: scandal, fascination, notoriety. (Ms. Knox was acquitted of the crimes she was accused of. Notoriety still might be the proper word, but it seems incomplete.)

Here are unusual news sources we cite today: We cite Inside Edition now explicitly. And TruTV. This helps reveal the tabloid nature of the fascination. It's not actual news. It's celebrity combined with crime. People have argued that she's not generally noteworthy (link) and while I see the point, for whatever reason(s), she has been targeted for an undeniable substantial and sustained amount of scrutiny and observation. This means she's generally noteworthy in WP language.

I start to understand the subject's last change here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/629007758

One think I ask of those who might disagree: Could you assemble similar coverage for a different person accused of a similar crime? I find coverage of this subject unusually high, and also see it classified under "entertainment". Barbara Walters is a journalist, but she's a journalist who interviews well-known people, often seeking details that aren't strictly newsworthy. From the start and over many decades, there was a fascination with this particular criminal.

Victim statement

https://people.com/crime/vili-fualaau-split-mary-kay-letourneau-he-sees-things-clearly/

Vili Fualaau 'Sees Things Clearly' After Split from Mary Kay Letourneau: Source

"He's starting to get some perspective," a source close to Fualaau tells PEOPLE. "He sees things clearly now, and realizes that this wasn't a healthy relationship from the start."

Well... this isn't attributed to the victim. But it gives cause to limit the victim's current statement as published.

SSOSA

LeTourneau was sentenced under an alternative sentence law called Special Sex Offender Sentencing Alternative, and did not negotiate a plea agreement.

Sources (non-comprehensive)

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