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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Sapphiremind (talk | contribs) at 11:45, 26 July 2020 (→‎Main characters/Rayla and sexism: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Viren seeks to become Lord Protector, not regent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:A180:4A60:6DEC:21B1:59D2:45AC (talk) 14:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That does change later in the show. 2001:44B8:6117:B100:DC04:977E:DEC2:FC9A (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes article

I have merged the episodes and series overview tables back into this article. There is not enough content to split, per User:Bignole/Episode page and WP:SIZESPLIT. -- /Alex/21 14:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have more representitive reviews?

The reviews listed under reception seem to be based off the first few episodes and the critiques listed dont really match up to the actual show. Egrariously, the article that complains about the accent which talks of "Americans doing a scottish accent" appears to be unaware that the voice actor IS scottish, the end result being either a) the author doesnt know what a scottish accent sounds like, or less pleasantly b) the author has a racist disposition towards less common accents. I'm going to be charitable and lean towards a. Whatever he case , its a bad review. Regardless, critics are entitled to unpleasant opinions, so the real issue its a review of the first three episodes. There must be better critical accounts that have reflect the critical consensus of the WHOLE thing (Remember, Netflix drops entire seasons in one hit. Good reviews presumably reflect this) whilst avoiding fawning, or in this case, irrational critiques. 2001:44B8:6117:B100:DC04:977E:DEC2:FC9A (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, this article needs more representative reviews of the entire show, be it of later seasons or even full reviews of the first season. And yes, I don't know why that article is quoted the most out of all the cited reviews. It almost seems like while the writer likes the show and the characters, her hate for Rayla's voice actress is personal. Not to mention that it seems unfair to criticize the scarcity of female characters when the first season gave us Rayla, Opeli, Aunt Amaya, and Ellis--of which the reviewer seems to have only met the first. --172.242.232.216 (talk) 01:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations

Accusations

Trying to reach a consensus about how to report them. Basically, I propose that we specifically report what is given in the reference. Being more vague than what is provided in the reference could be misleading.

  • Ajd recently said my edit erred by "cited source doesn't say "stereotypical female work" specifically so we shouldn't be that specific without a source that backs that up clearly". I agree with this critique. Should we say he was accused of leaving his children with female employees without permission, as described by the reference, instead?
  • The text currently reads "several female former employees of Riot Games and Wonderstorm accused Ehasz of treating women disrespectfully. I don't see accusations by multiple people of treating badly women specifically in the reference, but if they are present in the reference than this language is appropriate. Keep in mind that in the United States, where the show is produced, workplace bullying is widespread [1], so a pattern of inappropriate behavior from a manager doesn't necessarily mean a disadvantaged group is being targeted. Pretzel butterfly (talk) 18:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Main characters/Rayla and sexism

I previously edited something that was reverted and I'm editing it out again. It was under the main characters heading description of Rayla: "In the course of the series, she and Callum start a romantic relationship." I removed this sentence previously for two reasons - it happens during the middle of season 3, which many would consider a spoiler (not as attached to that reasoning).

But I am more annoyed with the fact that their relationship is listed only under Rayla. It is sexism to only mention romantic relationships for women, as if that were their value and contribution to the show. Either the exact same sentence should be added to Callum's description, or it should be in neither description.

Female characters are not present solely to be the romantic interests of the male characters, even if they are in a romantic relationship it should not be a defining characteristic of the woman, unless it is also considered a defining characteristic of the man. Go read media and gender to understand. Sapphiremind (talk)