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Hello @HiLo48:, thank you for your message. There is a source that uses the term "Monsoon Asia". I am not sure if this appropriate or not. I have reverted your edit again but if you don't agree you can revert it edit again and I can open a discussion at the talk page to achieve consensus. Thank you.(Sapah3 (talk) 12:26, 15 March 2020 (UTC))[reply]

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Persistent involvement in revert disputes

Hi Sapah3, thank you very much for your contributions. I'm a bit concerned about the frequency of your usage of "undo"/"revert", with detailed edit summaries instead of talk page discussion. Perhaps you could reconsider that approach. Thanks and best regards ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:45, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Desi

Dear Sapah3, in response to your latest revision, where you state that the term desi applies strictly to Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis only, that is based on only sources 2 and 3. And source 2 is an opinion piece in a magazine targeted toward South Asians. If you look at source 1, Boy Culture: An Encyclopedia, it states that desi is a term that applies to South Asians living in the United States and UK. And it goes on to say that South Asians include Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and Sri Lankans. Therefore, it makes sense that the term desi would apply to Sri Lankans living in the US/UK as well as the other three groups. In addition, while source 3, the Oxford Dictionary, states that desi is a term for Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis, the Oxford Learner's Dictionary includes those three groups and also Sri Lankans. Here is the link: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/desi_1:

Just something to think about. Thanks.174.140.115.206 (talk) 03:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)174.140.115.206 (talk) 03:06, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you very much for your comment. I understand what you are telling me but the general consensus is that Sri Lankans (and Nepalis) are not within the core definition of "desi". In regards to the first source it doesn't actually mention the term "Sri Lankan" so to infer that because Sri Lankans are South Asians they are "desi" would constitute original research and that's not allowed according to the rules of Wikipedia. Yes your source suggests Sri Lankans are "desi" but other sources (like the one listed on the Desi article page) don't. What we can see is that the term is open to opinion and the only thing we can do is understand that while some countries may be considered "desi" and others not, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will always be considered "desi" no matter what context we use "desi" in. So that is why the article lede describes this reality by highlighting the fact that the term is subjective and that it is generally accepted that India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are "desi" nations. I hope this helps you understand why the article has been written the way that it has been written. (Sapah3 (talk) 07:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you for your response. So it sounds like you're saying India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh are always considered "desi" and other South Asian nations like Sri Lanka or Nepal may or may not be considered "desi" depending on whom you ask. Do I have that right? Thank you for your objective and balanced response to my question.174.140.115.206 (talk) 01:06, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]