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==Other Rovas inscriptions==
==Other Rovas inscriptions==
Oppositely to the Szarvas inscription, which was written in Carpathian Basin Rovas script, the [[Alsószentmihály inscription]] was written with Khazarian Rovas script. The both are related to the [[Old Hungarian script|Szekely-Hungarian Rovas]] script.<ref>G. Hosszú: Issues of encoding the Rovas scripts. National Body Contribution for consideration by UTC and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2, May 25, 2011, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N4080, http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4080.pdf</ref>
Oppositely to the Szarvas inscription, which was written in Carpathian Basin Rovas script, the [[Alsószentmihály inscription]] was written with Khazarian Rovas script.<ref>[[Gábor Vékony|Vékony, Gábor]] (1985): Késő népvándorláskori rovásfeliratok [Rovas inscriptions from the Late Migration Period]. In: Életünk Vol. XXII, No. 1, pp. 71-84</ref> The both are related to the [[Old Hungarian script|Szekely-Hungarian Rovas]] script.<ref>G. Hosszú: Issues of encoding the Rovas scripts. National Body Contribution for consideration by UTC and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2, May 25, 2011, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N4080, http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4080.pdf</ref>

==Notes==
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==References==
==References==
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* Juhász, Irén (1985): A szarvasi avar rovásírásos tűtartó [The Avar need-case of Szarvas with Rovas script]. Magyar Tudomány [Journal of the Hungarian Science], 85:2, pp.&nbsp;92–95 {{hu}}
* Juhász, Irén (1985): A szarvasi avar rovásírásos tűtartó [The Avar need-case of Szarvas with Rovas script]. Magyar Tudomány [Journal of the Hungarian Science], 85:2, pp.&nbsp;92–95 {{hu}}
* Kristó, Gyula & Makk, Ferenc (2001): A kilencedik és a tizedik század története [The history of the 9th and the 10th centuries]. In: Magyar Századok [Hungarian Centuries]. Published by Pannonica Kiadó, Ser. ed.: Gyula Szvák, 222 p.&nbsp;ISBN 963-9252-38-7 {{hu}}
* Kristó, Gyula & Makk, Ferenc (2001): A kilencedik és a tizedik század története [The history of the 9th and the 10th centuries]. In: Magyar Századok [Hungarian Centuries]. Published by Pannonica Kiadó, Ser. ed.: Gyula Szvák, 222 p.&nbsp;ISBN 963-9252-38-7 {{hu}}
* Riba,István: Jöttek, honfoglaltak, fújtak. Régészvita egy rovásírásról [Came, settled, blown. Archaeological debate about the runic writing]. In: Heti Világgazdaság [Weekly Word's Economy], Vol. 21. 1999. N. 46. pp.&nbsp;101–102, 105; ISSN 1217-9647 {{hu}}
* Riba,István: Jöttek, honfoglaltak, fújtak. Régészvita egy rovásírásról [Came, settled, blown. Archaeological debate about the runic writing]. In: Heti Világgazdaság [Weekly Word's Economy], Vol. 21. 1999. N. 46. pp.&nbsp;101–102, 105; ISSN 12179647 {{hu}}
* [[András Róna-Tas|Róna-Tas, András]] (1996): A honfoglaló magyar nép [The landtaking Hungarian nation]. Bevezetés a korai Magyar történelem ismeretébe [Introduction to the knowledge of the early Hungarian history]. Budapest: Balassi Kiadó, ISBN 963 506 106 4
* [[András Róna-Tas|Róna-Tas, András]] (1996): A honfoglaló magyar nép [The landtaking Hungarian nation]. Bevezetés a korai Magyar történelem ismeretébe [Introduction to the knowledge of the early Hungarian history]. Budapest: Balassi Kiadó, ISBN 963 506 106 4
* [[András Róna-Tas|Róna-Tas, András]] (1996): The Migration and Landtaking of the Magyars. In: The Hungarian Quarterly. Vol. XXXVII, No. 144, Winter 1996, pp.&nbsp;37–41
* [[András Róna-Tas|Róna-Tas, András]] (1996): The Migration and Landtaking of the Magyars. In: The Hungarian Quarterly. Vol. XXXVII, No. 144, Winter 1996, pp.&nbsp;37–41
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* [[Gábor Vékony|Vékony Gábor]] (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1 {{hu}}
* [[Gábor Vékony|Vékony Gábor]] (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1 {{hu}}
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== External links ==
* [http://wiki.rovas.info/index.php/Szarvas_Rovas_inscription The Szarvas Rovas inscription on the RovasPedia]
* [http://www.freeweb.hu/rovasirashonlap/betuk/betuk_karpat-medencei_rovas.html The Carpathian Basin Rovas script on the Rovas Writing Home Page]
* [http://rovas.info Rovás Info News Portal]

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A bone needle case near Szarvas has a magical inscription from the second half of the 8th century. This belongs to the Late Avar Period (700-791).[1]

The photo and the drawing of the inscription

The bone needle case of Szarvas

Fig. presents the drawing of the inscription made by I. Erdélyi historian-archaeologist in 1984. The edges of the bone needle case are worn; therefore the top and bottom edges of a part of the characters are not clearly visible.[2]

Inscription of Szarvas[3]
Inscription of Szarvas[3]

The name of the script of the Szarvas inscription

Vékony named this script as "Kárpát-medencei rovásírás", which means: Carpathian Basin Rovas script according to the standard proposal of the Hungarian Standards Institution.[4][5] He many times used this term in his cited book, e.g. in the page 231, the title of the chapter is "A kárpát-medencei rovásábécé korabeli feljegyzése" that means: The contemporary record of the Carpathian Basin runic alphabet.

He analysed the similarities and the differences between the Old Hungarian and the Carpathian Basin scripts in the page 154 of his book.[6]

In the page 232, Vékony wrote: "- Aethicus Ister jelei azonosak az egykori Kárpát-medencei rovásírás jeleivel.", it means: The symbols of Aethicus Ister are identical to the symbols of the quondam Carpathian Basin script.[7]

Another quotation from Vékony: "E jel a Szarvason azonosított Kárpát-medencei f alig torzult megfelelője...", it means: This symbol is identical to the Carpathian Basin f identified in Szarvas.[8] In this sentence, the word Szarvas unambiguously refers to the "Szarvas inscription" (Szarvas is a city in Hungary).

In page 233, Vékony wrote: "Erre utalhat az is, hogy ez a betűalak levezethető egy párthus alep formából. Feltehető tehát ennek a jelnek a megléte a Kárpát-medencei rovásírásban is (a székelybe is innen származhatott).", which means: This could imply also that this glyph can be derived from the Parthian Aleph form. Consequently, the existence of this symbol can be supposed in the Carpathian Basin script as well (it could originate from this to the Székely)..[9] Here the 'Szekely' refers to the Szekely-Hungarian script better known as Old Hungarian script. This quotation is interesting, since it proves that Vékony supposed that the Carpathian Basin script is thought by some to be one of the the ancestors of the Old Hungarian script.

The meaning of the inscription

The transcription of archaeologist G. Vékony[10] was improved by linguist E. Zelliger. The last character of the fourth row of the inscription was reconstructed by archaeologist-historian Vékony. The inscription was written with Carpathian Basin script.[11]

Note that the consonants in squared brackets are the reconstruction of Vékony. Also, there are some parts, which are not readable because of the edges of the bone needle case are worn. Therefore, the top and bottom edges of some characters are not clearly visible.[12]

The following transcription is the result of Assoc. Prof. G. Vékony.[13]

Transcription with IPA notation

No. of row Transcription (using IPA) Translating from Ancient Hungarian
1st /yngyr : isnɛk im iʎ : βaʃu/ Szarvas Rovas inscription Row 4
2nd /[t]iɣ teβɛen : isen : tiɣ tiɣ sur bek βo/ Szarvas Rovas inscription Row 4
3rd /fɛʃɛs : ɛlei sɜl [...]/ Szarvas Rovas inscription Row 4
4th /yngyr ne : adɣon : [ɜzdɣ] imesd eɣt ɛn : iʃtɛnɛ[m]/ Szarvas Rovas inscription Row 4

In the inscription, the third symbol of the third row (from left) can be considered as the descendant of the Turkic ideograms. Nevertheless, their relation needs more evidence.

Transcription with Hungarian phonetic notation

No. of row Transcription (using Hungarian phonetic notation) Translating from Ancient Hungarian (modern meaning)
1st /üngür : isznek im ily : βasu/ Here is an iron [needle] against demon Üngür;
2nd /[t]iɣ tëβeën : iszën : tiɣ tiɣ szur bëk βo/ [Needle should be pricked into the demon; needle, needle, stab, poke, sew-[in]!
3rd /fesesz : elëi szɜl [...]/ [Who] unstitches […];
4th /üngür në : adɣon : [ɜzdɣ] imëszd ëɣt en : istene[m]/ Üngür shall not give [curse]; […], blast him, my God!’'

Critics, alternative theories

There are several critics of Vékony's theories and translations, most notably the Hungarian linguist and historian, András Róna-Tas. The debates were summarized by István Riba in 1999 and 2000.[14][15]

The key point of the critics was that traditionally, in the Hungarian science, the existence of the Hungarian-speaking population is supposed from 896 (Land-taking of the Magyars). The Szarvas relic is from the 8th century. Consequently, the Szarvas cannot be in Hungarian or the Hungarians were in the Carpathian Basin earlier than 896. Archaeologist-historian Gábor Vékony supposed that the Hungarians appeared even in the 7th century, and he handled the Szarvas relic as an evidence: he read it in Hungarian.

Turkologist András Róna-Tas had an attempt to read the Szarvas relic in Turkic, but he wrote that his transcription needs more improvement.[16]

The discussion about the period of the appearance of the Hungarians in the Carpathian Basin is between the groups of officially acknowledged scholars and it has not been concluded.

Other Rovas inscriptions

Oppositely to the Szarvas inscription, which was written in Carpathian Basin Rovas script, the Alsószentmihály inscription was written with Khazarian Rovas script.[17] The both are related to the Szekely-Hungarian Rovas script.[18]

References

  • Juhász, Irén (1983): Ein Avarenzeitlicher Nadelbehälter mit Kerbschrift aus Szarvas. In: Acta Acheologica 35 (1983), p. 34
  • Juhász, Irén (1985): A szarvasi avar rovásírásos tűtartó [The Avar need-case of Szarvas with Rovas script]. Magyar Tudomány [Journal of the Hungarian Science], 85:2, pp. 92–95 Template:Hu
  • Kristó, Gyula & Makk, Ferenc (2001): A kilencedik és a tizedik század története [The history of the 9th and the 10th centuries]. In: Magyar Századok [Hungarian Centuries]. Published by Pannonica Kiadó, Ser. ed.: Gyula Szvák, 222 p. ISBN 963-9252-38-7 Template:Hu
  • Riba,István: Jöttek, honfoglaltak, fújtak. Régészvita egy rovásírásról [Came, settled, blown. Archaeological debate about the runic writing]. In: Heti Világgazdaság [Weekly Word's Economy], Vol. 21. 1999. N. 46. pp. 101–102, 105; ISSN 12179647 Template:Hu
  • Róna-Tas, András (1996): A honfoglaló magyar nép [The landtaking Hungarian nation]. Bevezetés a korai Magyar történelem ismeretébe [Introduction to the knowledge of the early Hungarian history]. Budapest: Balassi Kiadó, ISBN 963 506 106 4
  • Róna-Tas, András (1996): The Migration and Landtaking of the Magyars. In: The Hungarian Quarterly. Vol. XXXVII, No. 144, Winter 1996, pp. 37–41
  • Vékony, Gábor (1985): Késő népvándorláskori rovásfeliratok [Runic inscriptions from the Late Migration Period]. In: Életünk Vol. XXII, No. 1, pp. 71–84 Template:Hu
  • Vékony, Gábor (1987): Későnépvándorláskori rovásfeliratok a Kárpát-medencében [Runic inscriptions from the Late Migration Period in the Carpathian Basin]. Szombathely-Budapest: Életünk szerkesztősége. ISBN 978-963-025-132-7 Template:Hu
  • Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1 Template:Hu

External links

Notes

  1. ^ Róna-Tas, András (1996): A honfoglaló magyar nép [The landtaking Hungarian nation]. Bevezetés a korai Magyar történelem ismeretébe [Introduction to the knowledge of the early Hungarian history]. Budapest: Balassi Kiadó, ISBN 963 506 106 4
  2. ^ Vékony, Gábor (1987): Spätvölkerwanderungszeitliche Kerbinschriften im Karpatenbecken. Acta Acheologica Hungarica Vol. 39, pp. 211-256.
  3. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó
  4. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1, page 203, first row of the second paragraph
  5. ^ G. Hosszú: Proposal for encoding the Carpathian Basin Rovas script in the SMP of the UCS. National Body Contribution for consideration by UTC and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2, January 21, 2011, revised: May 19, 2011, Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set. ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N4006, http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4006.pdf
  6. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1, page 154, first row of the second paragraph
  7. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1, page 232, eighth and ninth rows of the second paragraph
  8. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1, page 235, second and third rows of the second paragraph
  9. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó. ISBN 963 9402 45 1, page 233, last six rows in the first paragraph
  10. ^ Vékony, Gábor (1987): Későnépvándorláskori rovásfeliratok a Kárpát-medencében [Rovas inscriptions from the Late Migration Period in the Carpathian Basin]. Szombathely-Budapest
  11. ^ Vékony, Gábor (1987): Későnépvándorláskori rovásfeliratok a Kárpát-medencében [Runic inscriptions from the Late Migration Period in the Carpathian Basin]. Szombathely-Budapest: Életünk szerkesztősége
  12. ^ Vékony, Gábor (1987): Spätvölkerwanderungszeitliche Kerbinschriften im Karpatenbecken. In: Acta Acheologica Hungarica. Vol. 39, pp. 211-256, Fig. 2
  13. ^ Vékony Gábor (2004): A székely írás emlékei, kapcsolatai, története. Budapest: Nap Kiadó
  14. ^ Riba,István: Jöttek, honfoglaltak, fújtak. Régészvita egy rovásírásról [Came, settled, blown. Archaeological debate about the runic writing]. In: Heti Világgazdaság [Weekly Word's Economy], Vol. 21. 1999. N. 46. pp. 101-102, 105.
  15. ^ Riba, István (2000). "Reading the Runes: Evidence of the Dual Conquest?". The Hungarian Quarterly. Vol. XLI. No. 157, Spring 2000
  16. ^ Róna-Tas, András (1996): A honfoglaló magyar nép [The landtaking Hungarian nation]. Bevezetés a korai Magyar történelem ismeretébe [Introduction to the knowledge of the early Hungarian history]. Budapest: Balassi Kiadó, pp. 108-110
  17. ^ Vékony, Gábor (1985): Késő népvándorláskori rovásfeliratok [Rovas inscriptions from the Late Migration Period]. In: Életünk Vol. XXII, No. 1, pp. 71-84
  18. ^ G. Hosszú: Issues of encoding the Rovas scripts. National Body Contribution for consideration by UTC and ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2, May 25, 2011, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2 N4080, http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n4080.pdf