Talk:2021 Western Kentucky tornado

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If the tornadoes ARE connected...

If the survey finds this tornado was indeed the same tornado that went AR-MO-TN with a continuous damage track (that is uncertain at this point), the article name would change to 2021 Quad-State tornado? CrazyC83 (talk) 21:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think just Quad-state tornado would be sufficient, as there are no others. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that was my thinking as well. United States Man (talk) 21:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also didn't name it "Mayfield, Kentucky tornado" because obviously that wouldn't be representative of the entire track. United States Man (talk) 21:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, though that could be a redirect. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there are other significant tornadoes that have hit Mayfield in the past. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:27, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I redirected 2021 Mayfield, Kentucky tornado already. I think an EF3 hit there a few years ago. United States Man (talk) 21:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tornado outbreak of May 7–10, 2016 Yep. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of "Quad-state tornado"

While a quad-state tornado has not been confirmed, I think there should be a mention of the possibility of it and a record-breaking path length until we have confirmation otherwise. Reliable news outlets are discussing the possibility. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:36, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This tornado potentially was only in one state (or slightly in a second), so I don't think mention of it is warranted. United States Man (talk) 23:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. It is still uncertain. But I'm fine either way. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Worth noting, NWS Paducah did use the "Quad State Tornado" hashtag in a tweet earlier today Link. The term has gained reasonable circulation recently and may ultimately be worth revisiting at some point. Even if it ends up being a tornado family, this article may end up covering the lifespan of the cell, which would keep it relevant. Just my 2 cents. - Watch For Storm Surge!§eb 02:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC) (mostly retired from Wiki, but I check in every now and again ;) )[reply]

We also do not know if the tornado is NOT connected

Either way this article is premature. The analysis needs to be conducted first, and when conclusions have been made by reliable sources, then we should decide if this is one article or two. I tend to believe this article should remain merged with Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 until we know one way or another. 2001:558:6017:107:8D43:BEE6:70A4:BA3C (talk) 22:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We will expand this page to include other areas affected if they are confirmed. It was indeed part of the outbreak, but it is notable enough for a standalone article. We have split individual tornadoes from outbreaks before (e.g. the 2013 Moore tornado. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the article will stay and be expanded. If this article was premature, so was the outbreak article when it was created. United States Man (talk) 23:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The immediate deletion of my edit

Hi User:United_States_Man I see that you immediately deleted my edit and described it as "irrelevant" and "unnecessary"". I think that a factory owner telling factory workers they cannot leave, prior to their deaths from the Tornado, is relevant on an article about the Tornado. The Tornado is not simply a weather or meteorological event, its impact was fatal for multiple people and that consequence is notable, and my edits were sourced. Before writing this comment, I checked WP:Relevance and I think it supported my stance. I'm not sure who you are saying I should not have named, was it the deceased (he was named in the article) or the factory owner (it's widely reported as the Amazon factory). I'm somewhat new, so maybe I'm missing something, but please say why you think this is not relevant to the article. And please consider letting my edit stand CT55555 (talk) 02:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't oppose mentioning it for the candle factory, but it doesn't warrant a section all to itself. The note about the Amazon warehouse is not relevant, since that was from a different tornado. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The application of that to the article was less than desirable, so it was reverted. That should definitely not have its own section, and I would not mention anyone by name in the article that doesn't meet the notability guidelines. If anything is included, it should be in the aftermath section. United States Man (talk) 02:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think "desirable" is a matter of opinion and perspective, so I'll avoid commenting on that. I think we at least have consensus that the candle factory management owners actions should be included and as the naming appears to be associate with the wrong tornado, it's a moot point. I'll start over with the candle factory and trust that you support that. CT55555 (talk) 02:15, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]