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3 Versions

There have been three versions of Sync to date (Sync, released in '07; Sync 2, released '08; Sync 3, released '09). We should have three headings or something that, at the very least, list the new/improved features. Mbslrm (talk) 14:47, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

System Costs

It is totally ridiculous to think that the hardware costs of this system would be $30. An OEM quality simple car radio costs more to produce than that. The cost for the box is more like in the 3 lower digit range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.74.169.87 (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Recording of conversations section

I don't understand why this merits inclusion. There are no references cited to indicate that this is noteworthy. I was not able to turn up any articles doing a few basic internet searches.

Electronic systems regularly record information you give them (Google, Bing and OnStar being three examples) in order to fulfill a request. This is not a new or novel. In the Terms and Conditions Ford is explaining what must happen in order to respond to user requests.

Since there are no citations and I can't find any articles that point out a significant consumer controversy regarding this aspect of SYNC, I'm removing the section since in its present form it seems to be original research. Ch Th Jo (talk) 05:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recording of Conversations removed again. This topic in particular has been singled out from the SYNC Terms and Conditions. Why? What respected, third party sources support highlighting this particular aspect of the Terms and Conditions? Additionally, there is no commentary of any kind, just a cut and paste from the terms and conditions, which itself is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Without third party citations, it is an editor's opinion that this is noteworthy and thus original research. Let's see some articles from respected sources that demonstrate that this particular aspect of the Terms and Conditions is unusual, controversial or in some way noteworthy. At least one editor thinks this is important, but unless we can find some citations that demonstrate that this aspect of the SYNC Terms and Conditions is actually is being discussed and documented by respected sources, it should not be included in the article. I am unable to find any such citations. Ch Th Jo (talk) 17:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:N, "On Wikipedia, notability determines whether a topic merits its own article," and, "These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list." There are no notability requirements for information included within the article itself. The "Recording of Conversations" information is relevant to the subject of the article, and thus as worthy of inclusion as much of the rest of the information in it (which is also not backed up by reputable third-party sources). -- noosphere 16:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Since there are no citations and I can't find any articles that point out a significant consumer controversy regarding this aspect of SYNC, I'm removing the section since in its present form it seems to be original research. [[User:Ch Th Jo|Ch Th Jo]] ([[User talk:Ch Th Jo|talk]]) 05:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 :: Recording of Conversations removed again. This topic in particular has been singled out from the SYNC Terms and Conditions. Why? What respected, third party sources support highlighting this particular aspect of the Terms and Conditions? Additionally, there is no commentary of any kind, just a cut and paste from the terms and conditions, which itself is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Without third party citations, it is an editor's opinion that this is noteworthy and thus original research. Let's see some articles from respected sources that demonstrate that this particular aspect of the Terms and Conditions is unusual, controversial or in some way noteworthy. At least one editor thinks this is important, but unless we can find some citations that demonstrate that this aspect of the SYNC Terms and Conditions is actually is being discussed and documented by respected sources, it should not be included in the article. I am unable to find any such citations. [[User:Ch Th Jo|Ch Th Jo]] ([[User talk:Ch Th Jo|talk]]) 17:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
+::: According to [[WP:N]], ''"On Wikipedia, notability determines whether a topic merits its own article,"'' and, ''"These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list."''  There are no notability requirements for information included within the article itself.  The "Recording of Conversations" information is relevant to the subject of the article, and thus as worthy of inclusion as much of the rest of the information in it (which is also not backed up by reputable third-party sources).  -- [[User:Noosphere|noosph]]<font color="green">[[User:Noosphere/Esperanza|e]]</font>[[User:Noosphere|re]] 16:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)