Talk:Hadad-yith'i

I have linked other entries to this page and added links and categories, however I still have the errors.

Questions

Some of the stuff here (say, under "inscription") should perhaps be moved to the Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription-article? And the Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription-article should perhaps be moved to Hadad-yith'i statue bilingual inscription? (or something like it)? -Huldra (talk) 23:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I am not sure how to divide the content. In fact I think in a way there is a good argument for them to merged. Because the inscription is named for the tell, but it was commissioned and is all about Hadad Yith'i.Tiamut^talk 00:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about merging under the title Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription of Adad It'i/Hadad Yith'i?

Hey User:Onceinawhile. What are your thoughts on this subject? Should we merge? Or ...? Tiamut^talk 18:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Hadad-yith'i was an important figure by himself, so I think we should have an article on him; who knows, more info about him might turn up? We could have a summary of the of the inscription under its own paragraph in this article, and then a {{main|Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription}} under the paragraph header? Oh, and then move Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription to Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription of Adad It'i/Hadad Yith'i? (So we will have a {{main|Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription of Adad It'i/Hadad Yith'i}} What do you think? Huldra (talk) 20:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Hi @Tiamut: it's a good question and one I have had mixed feelings on for some time. I have been focused on centralizing the key inscriptions at Canaanite and Aramaic inscriptions, but have also been working on some of the king lists at e.g. King of Sidon. The situation where all the sources of an ancient monarch are covered by one article, but we then have a separate article about the monarch, is becoming more and more common. For example we have ended up with Bodashtart inscriptions as well as Bodashtart, and Tabnit sarcophagus and Tabnit (as an aside, Elias Ziade had the impressive achievement of getting Bodashtart to be Today's Featured Article last week).

Looking at it from another angle, it is not dissimilar to a situation like Siege of Masada, the entirety of which is only known from The Jewish War.

In the round I would vote for keeping the two separate, but having two distinct scopes:

Inscription article:

Discovery, epigraphy, translation, any disagreements in interpretation

Person article:

All information known about the person and their life, modern cultural references, speculated biblical connections, etc

Onceinawhile (talk) 20:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, there is an article about him on de.wp: de:Hadad-yis'i, with its own Wikidata-entry; I have asked on Wikidata for them to be merged, Huldra (talk) 21:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone, thanks for the mention @Onceinawhile:. (1) I have worked with Onceinawhile on a number of articles about ancient rulers where artifacts attributed to them warranted separate articles. This is the case with Bodashtart and his inscriptions, and Eshmunazar, Tabnit and Ahiram with their sarcophagi. This is not an emergent question. To sum it up, I am all for starting articles about artifacts belonging to rulers IF there is enough literature to support the creation of a well-developed article. (2) I wouldn't completely remove the Inscription section in the king's article; I'd keep a brief summary and refer the readers to the main article. (3) I disagree with Onceinawhile with his choice for the inscription article name; I ran an n-gram search and found that the term "Tell Fekheriye bilingual inscription" is not used. I suggest renaming the article to "Hadad-yith'i inscription" since it's much more commonly present in literature._Elias Z. (talkallam) 06:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elias Ziade, thank you for this. I am fine to change the inscription article title as you suggest. I think part of the problem is that الفخيرية‎ is spelt dozens of different ways in English. Either way, Hadad-yith'i inscription is much more recognizable to readers. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your feedback. There is not a lot of information so far about Hada Yith'i as nothing was known about him outside of the inscription. However, he can keep a short entry for hin, with a summary of the inscription info as suggested by Elias, and move the rest into an article on the inscription. I think "Tell Fakriyah inscription" is widely known but as Onceinawhile pointed kut the many different romanizations of the Arabic name obscure that. No problem with reanming to Hada Yithi inscription since it well known too. I will work on merging the info on the inscription into the other article in the days to come. Tiamut^talk 07:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]