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Hi, we're a group of students from Saginaw Valley State University and we're editing and fact checking this article for our English class. Please don't make any changes to the page. Thank You ~The Kool-Aid Jammers Removed this:

Some have alleged that the drink is intentionally marketed to African-Americans; for example, some commercials, aimed at older consumers, depict African-American families bonding over Kool-Aid.

'Intentionally marketed to" and 'alleged' makes it sound like this is a bad thing, like marketing junk to children. Strikes me as patronising and weird. Also weasel words.

Should this still be a marked as a stub? How much more can you really write about Kool-Aid ? Preisler 22:17, Feb. 7, 2005 (UTC)

high-sugar drink? Aren't there sugar-free versions? RickK ->yes, you should edit tat page to say that there are versions avaiable that include or encourage high amounts of fake sugar.

Changes worth mentioning:

Capitalization (Kool-Aid rather than Kool-aid)
removed "available in the U.S." (it's available in lots of places: at least in Canada, Russia, Brazil, Columbia, Philippines, Venezuela, and Mexico. If there's someplace it's known NOT to be available, it might be worth mentioning.) [It's not available in Britain, or at least I've never seen it on sale or advertised.]
also in an artifically sweetened, non-sugar version
fun suicide facts.
the explanation about "drinking (someone's) Kool-Aid" may be a little convoluted for its own good, but I can't find a more felicitous phrasing at the moment. Your aim will help. -- Someone else 07:03 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)

what is fake sugar?

Artificial sweetener.

I have an american friend who uses Kool-aid as a synonym for gossip. Is this usual? Tristanb 11:04, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)

No. <G> -- Someone else 11:10, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)

hahaha, i'll tell her that. She's mexican (by birth) living in LA. I wonder if it's regional, or her own little thing. thanks. Tristanb

Coold be local. I dunno, like "coffee-talk" meaning gossip and if you don't drink coffee but Kool-aid instead? Let me know if she has a logical explanation! :) -- Someone else

actually some people do use this term i.e. "why are you in my kool-aid if you dont know the flavor?" or just "in my Kool-aid" as if someone is in your business. -random person

Kool-Aid Man picture

Okay, guys, which do you think is better? [1] or [2]? It seems a little extreme to put both in... -leigh 11:39, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going with [1]. -leigh (φθόγγος) 05:55, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

Edits by user:67.117.218.13

To 67.117.218.13: I don't mean to offend, but is English your native language? Most of the edits you've made seem to be attempts to "fix" grammar that is already correct. In this case, you've put the Kool-Aid Man in the past tense (using the word "was"), although he is still the mascot and is featured in advertisements to this day. You've also created a wiki link to Kool-Aid Man - but Kool-Aid Man is simply a redirect back to Kool-Aid! Finally, by adding a period after "Kool-Aid Man," you've turned the rest of the sentence into a sentence fragment (it doesn't contain a verb).

Ah, I see (from user:67.117.218.13) that this problem is already known. :( Good lord, how frustrating. -leigh (φθόγγος) 05:52, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

Ice

What about Kool-aid icecubes? I can not seem to find any info about those anywhere. I have a simple recipe for those interested. Jaberwocky6669 19:35, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

I think you're talking about Fruity Cubes, Sour Cubes, etc. They're on the back of Kool-Aid canisters.--Mr. Kool 20:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC) Mr. Kool[reply]

Drinking the Kool-Aid section

IMHO this section could use some cleaning to bring it to a professional tone.

Aside from style, I was interested in the details linked to the Jim Jones mass suicide. They don't sync with the Jim Jones page which describes the poison as "Flavor-Aid" (no flavor mentioned). Perhaps that page is wrong, but if somebody happens to be an authority on the subject (I'm surely not), we could get the two pages to match. Seems I've always heard that the beverage in question was red.

Thoughts?

Ckamaeleon 00:36, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(If I recall correctly:) At the "Acid Tests", there were various hangers-on (journalists, cops, groupies) who looked on but didn't participate. If you were asked "Have you drunk the Kool-Aid?", that meant "Are you with us? Are you committed?".

"Drinking the Kool-Aid", in the Kesey sense, changes you, but doesn't kill you. The phrase is not used in place of, say, "buying the farm" or "kicking the bucket".

Having said that, I know I'm in the minority here. I can't find supporting citations at the moment. But it bugs me

The Jonestown association is one of pure tragedy, but the "Acid Test" one is more nuanced, IMHO - to "drink the Kool-Aid" will be an interesting experience, whatever else happens.

--XyKyWyKy 09:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HEY! Someone even mentions the Flavor-Aid thing at the bottom of THIS page under Trivia

Ckamaeleon 00:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it should be noted that this term currently only sees widespread use in political circles? --John R. Barberio ^{talk, contribs 12:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC)}[reply]

Does anyone here dye their hair with Kool-Aid? Mr. Kool 1:51. 5 February 2006 (UTC)

J.J.

Who removed the Kool-Aid and lower-class section? It's rather well-documented that J.J. on Good Times liked that drink. Mike H. That's hot 01:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I remember it. I think some people removed it along with the accusations that Krafts Foods markets to said minorities. If you look in the history, you can find it and put it back in. It's okay by me (although I know nothing about it). JohnJohn 00:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

moved flavors to bottom of page

If anyone cares, I moved flavors to the bottom of the page. It's good information; it's just not very interesting prose. JohnJohn 07:24, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it's logically incorrect. The article flows off to in vaguely related trivia, and then back onto topic again. The trivia ought to be at the bottom imho. --kingboyk 15:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the flavors section is a break. Lists are not good reading. Good information; not good reading. If you really want, you can change it. This is the Kool-Aid page. JohnJohn 07:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Popular amongst African Americans?

Kool Aid is also very popular and beloved in the African American community.Uhh...evidence, please. VarunRajendran

I agree. Maybe if we had some type of statistic supporting this statement, but right now it's just a stereotype. I'm removing it. If anyone objects, we can discuss it further on this page. JohnJohn 04:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]