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::Are you sure you have your developed and developing correct? In some places there is no Western medical care at all either prehospital or in hospital.[[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) 01:26, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
::Are you sure you have your developed and developing correct? In some places there is no Western medical care at all either prehospital or in hospital.[[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) 01:26, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

:::I believe that was my point, no? Virtually all of the countries discussed on the EMS page are dealing strictly with countries that have robust emergency care systems (clinical and prehospital). My point is that by re-claiming "prehospital care", it will free up space to discuss alternative prehospital systems where there are no formal "EMS" services. There's a lot out there. It should be discussed under a "Prehospital Care" page. [[User:TrekMedics|TrekMedics]] ([[User talk:TrekMedics|talk]]) 04:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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I'm looking to take this page back so it is not a redirect. The EMS pages are overwhelmingly dedicated to developing countries (UK, US and CAN in particular), and there's a whole lot of information that should be posted for countries and systems that do not have the money, resources or ability to organize the systems in developed countries, and therefore have a hard time finding their way into those pages. It's a bit disingenuous to dedicate the EMS page solely to the Anglo-American and Franco-German systems as they appear in their respective industrialized countries. What about community-based prehospital care systems? Layperson responders, alternative transport methods, improvised alerting and response technologies? The World Health Organization and even the World Bank are writing about these types of efforts, and despite the fact that they are oftentimes technically "informal" systems, so I think they deserve their due regard. I would like to re-acquisition this page so that it can be dedicated to systems and efforts that are not backed by substantial funding and/or robust clinical health care facilities/systems. This is somewhat monopolistic. While I won't re-hash the well-trodden arguments surrounding the use of the "paramedic" nomenclature on the EMS talk pages, I want to share this one story to make my point - down the road from my house here in Haiti, there's a medical education institute that is dedicated to "paramedic training." I assure you that there are no ACLS classes going on there - nor should there be. In the same sense, I think we should free "prehospital care" from the bondage of "redirection", and give it back to the people. "Prehospital" is a universal word that better describes what's going on in the developing world than "EMS". (I would also settle for "Prehospital Emergency Care" as that could avoid other potential semantic debates; maybe disambiguation with the journal PEC? Thanks for your time TrekMedics (talk) 01:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you have your developed and developing correct? In some places there is no Western medical care at all either prehospital or in hospital.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:26, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that was my point, no? Virtually all of the countries discussed on the EMS page are dealing strictly with countries that have robust emergency care systems (clinical and prehospital). My point is that by re-claiming "prehospital care", it will free up space to discuss alternative prehospital systems where there are no formal "EMS" services. There's a lot out there. It should be discussed under a "Prehospital Care" page. TrekMedics (talk) 04:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]