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Hi there, I saw your comment about Naturopathy on the talk page for [[List of topics characterized as pseudoscience]] and thought it would be a good addition. [[User:Lukekfreeman|Lukekfreeman]] ([[User talk:Lukekfreeman|talk]]) 02:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw your comment about Naturopathy on the talk page for [[List of topics characterized as pseudoscience]] and thought it would be a good addition. [[User:Lukekfreeman|Lukekfreeman]] ([[User talk:Lukekfreeman|talk]]) 02:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Wow, I forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder! I'll add it now. Cheers, [[User:A13ean|a13ean]] ([[User_talk:A13ean|talk]]) 02:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Wow, I forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder! I'll add it now. Cheers, [[User:A13ean|a13ean]] ([[User_talk:A13ean|talk]]) 02:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

== Request for clarification about reliable sources for Waldorf education ==

I am requesting clarification of the arbitration ruling on reliable sources at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment]]. You may want to add any thoughts on the subject there. [[User:Hgilbert|hgilbert]] ([[User talk:Hgilbert|talk]]) 21:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:50, 20 January 2013


Message from Walledro

I have restored the Hammond information with the repaired link and noted the actucal specific events, complaints were made, he was cleared and I've used a legitmate source, a newspaper, not a blog. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walledro (talkcontribs)

Blacklisted references

When removing <ref>s using blacklisted links, as you did in this edit, please be sure not to leave orphaned refs behind (e.g. these). An easy way to check is to see if the page ends up in the hidden category Category:Pages with broken reference names after your edit. Thanks! Anomie 18:01, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I rushed through that one, thanks for the head's up! a13ean (talk) 18:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Waldorf schools growth chart

Thanks for the offer to recreate this. I've recollected much of the data for it. See the uploaded data here. I appreciate this! hgilbert (talk) 12:24, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've discovered a very reliable source, Zander's 2000 page habilitation thesis. I've added a significant chunk of data, and it now gives a full picture. hgilbert (talk) 13:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I should be able to get to it some time today. If you have a chance could you write out the full citation for each of the ones used, so I can include them in the information for the uploaded file? Thanks, a13ean (talk) 18:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a file with all the data in it. I made a preliminary chart but yours will probably look better. If you want to skip the 1979 data point, you are welcome to; it is so far from the 1981 value given by Zander that I'm suspicious.

Growth of Waldorf schools worldwide.jpg hgilbert (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting a 404 on the last link, will try to see if I can hunt it down in a few unless you have it handy. I'm trying to see if I can get abbreviated versions of all the refs in the plot, but failing that, will make something like the above with the points labeled by what ref they are sourced by. a13ean (talk) 02:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Try this: updatedhgilbert (talk) 02:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The number is different in this file: 1023. hgilbert (talk) 03:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While searching for this I discovered and added a data point for 2005. hgilbert (talk) 03:24, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Several new data points from Ullrich, Rudolf Steiner, another reliable source. With the new points, he curve is now reasonably smooth, except for the 1979 outlying value from a less secure source. I've commented this outlier out in the data file; you can see it by editing the file. hgilbert (talk) 11:23, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one that uses your most recent data set minus the point for '79, I'll fill in which references go to which points on the article talk when I have a chance later in the day. Cheers a13ean (talk) 19:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And the file description has been updated. Originally I thought it would be good to include ref links in the caption like a) <ref>whatever</ref>, but I guess if anyone wants to track down the sources they can just click-through to the full-size image. Does the plot look OK, or is there anything you would like to change? a13ean (talk) 23:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this. I wonder if the letters are more distracting then useful if that to which they refer is not visible on the page. What if we left them off and added to the file description refs a list of the years for which each provided data? This would be complete documentation without clutter on the page.hgilbert (talk) 19:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah should be fine as long as people can find the full list somewhere. Here's File:Growth_of_Waldorf_Schools_Worldwide_without_annotation.png which links to the first one in the description. a13ean (talk) 02:55, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
just saw this. I put the original file up in the meantime; I will copy the data from the talk page and then link to your graph. hgilbert (talk) 17:33, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Naturopathy as Pseudoscience

Hi there, I saw your comment about Naturopathy on the talk page for List of topics characterized as pseudoscience and thought it would be a good addition. Lukekfreeman (talk) 02:08, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder! I'll add it now. Cheers, a13ean (talk) 02:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for clarification about reliable sources for Waldorf education

I am requesting clarification of the arbitration ruling on reliable sources at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment. You may want to add any thoughts on the subject there. hgilbert (talk) 21:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]