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Let's just agree to disagree. I don't want to get into this debate again.[[User:Evildoer187|Evildoer187]] ([[User talk:Evildoer187#top|talk]]) 00:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Let's just agree to disagree. I don't want to get into this debate again.[[User:Evildoer187|Evildoer187]] ([[User talk:Evildoer187#top|talk]]) 00:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

== Block talk ==

I dont want to see you get blocked from editing - just so you know there has been some talk about the fact a few have broken the [[WP:1RR|one revert]] rule for the [[List of indigenous peoples]] article as it falls under {{tl|Arab-Israeli Arbitration Enforcement}}. Best to talk over editing when it comes to articles like this. We are talking about the refs but oddly the 2 that are reverting each-other are not talking. Pls come to the talk page again.[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 17:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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Jews in the Roman Empire

Why are you interested in the subject? Crock8 (talk) 02:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You could say that. But we're currently having a bit of a disagreement over there and we need some more people chiming in.Evildoer187 (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Categorizing Category:Jews

While Jews descend from Asians, one must go back over a thousand years. According to this logic, Hispanics should be part of Europeans, and Polynesians come from Southeast Asia. In fact, all people come from Africa, if you go back far enough. ypnypn (talk)

I don't think that analogy works. Hispanics are an indigenous Amerindian group with European influences thanks to colonialism. However, Jews are primarily a Semitic/Middle Eastern population centered in Israel, and dispersed throughout the world. That's why it's called the Jewish "diaspora".Evildoer187 (talk) 01:36, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I couldn't help noticing, and having a bit of a laugh. You may consult the work of Cavalli-Sforza on the subject, but I doubt you will convince any Jews they are 'Asian' :-) Classifying "Hispanics" is even more difficult. Polynesians coming from South East Asia is a theory last I heard, but maybe something new came up. Another theory is that they were refugees from "India" c.1,800 years ago.

That "all people come from Africa" is a really big statement to make considering that too is a theory.

Many anthropologists have a problem with using Semitic as a taxonomic term because it presupposes belief in the authenticity of the Torah :-) Thing is, I doubt the Jews care much. Most would just be happy to be called by their proper identifier, Yisrael, Levi or Kohen. Crock8 (talk) 06:44, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I must admit that my overly literal interpretation of things has left a great deal of people confused, if not outright @#!*% off. As another example, I would never classify an Afrikaner or Boer as African, as they are descendents of European colonists and are thus not truly native to Africa. I apply this same principle to Jews, who are by all accounts a diaspora population from ancient Israel, which is located in Asia, hence my classification of Jews as Asian.

In fact, the only people I know who try to frame Jews as a non-Semitic group are those who are looking for an excuse to kick Jews out of the Middle East. I refuse to conform to such bigoted and historically revisionist views in my editing.Evildoer187 (talk) 10:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you completely missed my point. "People of ___ descent" refers to a few generations back, not thousands of years. Jews left Judea en masse 2000+ years ago. My examples weren't meant to be taken so percisely. -- ypnypn (talk) 00:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let's just agree to disagree. I don't want to get into this debate again.Evildoer187 (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Block talk

I dont want to see you get blocked from editing - just so you know there has been some talk about the fact a few have broken the one revert rule for the List of indigenous peoples article as it falls under {{Arab-Israeli Arbitration Enforcement}}. Best to talk over editing when it comes to articles like this. We are talking about the refs but oddly the 2 that are reverting each-other are not talking. Pls come to the talk page again.Moxy (talk) 17:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]