User talk:Evilphoenix/Archive 09

I'm not watching AN/I, so if you happen to be wandering in from there to complain or comment, know that I'm staying away. If I see two people engaged in edit warring, I think that's disruptive and destructive, and I'll throw down an equal sided block on both parties in a heartbeat. I'm trying to minimise my involvement in Teh Dramah, so I don't watch AN/A, RfC, or God forbid get on IRC. But I still have a mop and I'm not afraid to use it. Cheers, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 07:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

You blocked Guanaco when he was responding to an AN/I

Please unblock him immediately. MarkSweep's edits were a mass blanking campaign wholly unsanctioned by policy. Guanco is doing his job! See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:MarkSweep.

StrangerInParadise 07:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Adding my voice to ask you to unblock Guanaco (he did nothing wrong in my opinion), even if only to reply to AN/I. NSLE _(T+C) at 07:21 UTC (2006-03-04)

I don't wish to wheel war you and get into an argument in the future over this block/possible unblock, so please unblock him. Otherwise, I will have no choice but do so. All he did was revert disruptive blanking. NSLE _(T+C) at 07:28 UTC (2006-03-04)

I don't think it's a wheel war if you unblock him, but if I were to re-block him then it would be a wheel war, as I comment on below. Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 03:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: Friday has done so, and saved me the need of doing it. Please realise that this is a difficult situation, and your blocks may just make it worse. NSLE _(T+C) at 07:32 UTC (2006-03-04)

No offense, but I felt it was the right thing to do. See the appropriate discussion on AN/I if you care to. Friday (talk) 07:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Folks, there's a lot of concerns lately on Wikipedia about not wanting to risk wheel warring with other Admins. I think that's a good and respectable thing, and I appreciate the courtesy you have shown in not wanting to undo my block without discussing it with me first. However, in my mind, it's not a wheel war to simply undo another Admins's actions, no more than it's an edit war if somebody reverts my edits. If I were to turn around and re-block Guanaco after Friday unblocked him, that would be starting a wheel war, and that type of action I have a huge problem with. However, Admin actions are reversible by other Admins for a reason. Please don't forget that. It's part of what it means to be a Wiki. What courtesy on Wikipedia should be for Admins is the same for edits...don't get in an edit war, but discuss the issue and strive for consensus. If someone reverts my edits, ok, if I feel strongly about what I think it should say, let's discuss it. If someone undoes an Admin action of mine, ok, if I feel strongly about it let's discuss it, but know that A. I'm not going to be offended by it and B. I'm not going to re-block someone or stuff like that. That's just stupid, and that's what we all need to work against happening. Now, if Guanaco was in the right, and defending policy, fabulous. I blocked them both because what I saw was an edit war. I saw Guanaco and MarkSweep going back and forth. It would have been better for someone else to revert MarkSweep, rather than edit war himself. That's why I placed the block. I have no problem with Friday unblocking him, I know and trust Friday's judgement, and yours too NSLE. I may not be able to make you as comfortable as I think you should be with reverting other Admins actions, but know that with me, I assure you you are welcome to revert my actions, as I believe you have the power to do so for a reason. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 03:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)