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thanks

Thank you for my very first Barnstar! Collect (talk) 20:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

You truly deserve it. You opened up a new world to me. :) Inclusionist (talk) 20:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Category

When you want to put [[Category...]] on a talk page, preceed it with a colon, like so: [[:Category...]], or it will add the talk page to the category in question. I fixed up User_talk:Gillian_Reed. The : is necessary on images-as-links and categories-as-links and can be used without harm on other wikilinks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 02:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I am aware of that technical tool, but don't copy edit the way I should. Thanks for correcting it. travb (inclusionist) (talk) 02:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 02:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

You welcome :) travb (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

MfD notifications

Please don't canvass user talk pages to recruit participation in MfDs. It may present a skewed perspective to the closing administrator, particularly where you only notify Guido's friends and supporters. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I am aware of WP:Canvas I believe my two notifications, to two people who have participated in this discussion on the talk page before, fell within those guidelines. travb (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Such notifications are almost certainly unnecessary; I would expect that users interested in the fate of the page would have it watchlisted. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

You may also be interested in this. It's not really a RFC (there was one and it has failed to change his behavior), it's being built under the expectation that a permaban or block will one day be implemented and evidence will be needed. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 17:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

thank you. I think I have said what I feel needs to said on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Guido den Broeder/Wikipedia, the Social Experiment. Regardless, the essay is going to be deleted. travb (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully Anyway, I'm far more of a deletionist than inclusionist, so no doubt there's a fundamental disagreement between us. But we couldn't have wikipedia without debate, so even if I disagree I must support your right to voice your disagreement. No hard feelings? WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 12:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope you feel that way after realizing that I started to argue again about the deletion of the page.

No hard feelings and I respect you until you start deleting articles I have spent months working on. Lets hope that never happens.

I wrote then deleted a message to TenOfAllTrades on the miscellaneous village pump in response to his condescending message. Talking about how his experience on wikipedia was probably vastly different then mine. Yours has probably been radically different too.

Of my 26,000 edits, 3,000 have been deleted. Many more would have been deleted if I hadn't fought tooth and nail for them. My contributions are firm. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories either, just minority viewpoints, and I can out source anyone. My views are simply anti-American, against the views of most Americans. Instead of sourcing their own POV, these edit warriors take the easy route, and delete, delete, delete.

I think 9/11 conspiracy theorist views are flawed and ridiculous, but I have supported them in the past, often because they edit some of the same 9/11 articles. Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/September 11 conspiracy theories is one more example of the majority marginalizing and silencing the minority. The administrative favoritism and abuse that were perpetrated is deeply troubling. Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/September_11_conspiracy_theories#Statement_by_User:Inclusionist

Most whites in America think the system works, most blacks, who are poor and on the bottom don't. The reason why is because those whites have the system working for them, whereas blacks don't. Editors believe in the system and worship the system, because the system works for you.

Editors feel vastly different if you had to fight tooth and nail for almost every edit you made. travb (talk) 12:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Gillian Reed

Hey, Inclusionist, Gillian here. Just wanted to say thanks for putting the article onto my userpage. This may help bring their composer, Linda Mancia, back to Wikipedia, and Linda has some info crucial for putting Tyranta on Wikipedia. Also thanks for trying to help out when nearly getting involved with the Wikipedia officials. I'm trying to track down some sources that may be able to be of use. There was something about it in the Star Review, I'll go check the Ann's site when it gets up.

-Gillian Reed (talk) 20:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could help, it is amazing how cruel and heartless editors can be here.

Although that other editor you turn too first didn't seem ot happy about my help. He made a point to contradict my points on a policy page. travb (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Roosting Chickens

In response to the work you posted, I might just recommend Noam Chomsky. There are many problems with U.S. foreign policy, but the antiwar movement has shown progress.--70.224.16.81 (talk) 09:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Inclusionist, thanks for your support at the MfD. Unfortunately, despite all the good arguments, we got overruled. Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 12:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Guacimal AfD

I know; I nominated it for deletion. See why on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guacimal. --Dylan620 _Contribs ^Sign! 01:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know who you are. I thought you were someone arguing WP:Canvas, only a matter of time. travb (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

You can get your article speedy deleted. Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion General, #7, using {{db-reason|author nominates for deletion}}. Glad I can help. travb (talk) 01:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, see my comments on the article AfD page. travb (talk) 01:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I just edit-conflicted twice with you. --Dylan620 _Contribs ^Sign! 01:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, the edit conflict was my fault.

Be proud you created a new article, in the years to come, it may become a featured article, all because of your hard work. Thanks :) travb (talk) 01:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

RE:Zoids articles

Thank you for your concern, but I actually do not care either way about the fate of the articles TTN has listed for deletion. -- saberwyn 00:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to help, I wish I knew half of that information in that template on your talk page when I was a new editor. :) Best wishes. travb (talk) 00:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Finding first author of an article

Hi - I noticed this request. You may find this api.php query helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=User_talk:Inclusionist&rfstartid=0&rvdir=newer&rvlimit=1&rvprop=user&prop=revisions&format=xml

-- Rick Block (talk) 10:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)