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Sandbox

I'll delete your sandbox in a few hours when I have access to a better computer (the size keeps on crashing this browser!), alternatively you can tag with {{db-u1}} and another admin will delete it. Giant Snowman 10:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Manucharyan

Again, please do not add any content back to this article that is not directly referenced by reliable sources; please also do not remove the valid maintenance tags. Giant Snowman 18:34, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was not online, and that is no "green light" to add unreferenced material to a BLP - that is basic stuff. Do NOT add the material back to the article - either find reliable sources, or leave it out. I also strongly suggest you use the article talk page. Giant Snowman 16:58, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please only re-add the 'full name' if you present a reliable source at the same time. Giant Snowman 16:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You added something without a source - and the state of other articles doesn't matter. Giant Snowman 16:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

You need to stop following me around Wikipedia, and you need to stop with your POINTy editing as it is becoming disruptive - at James Dickey you removed an infobox and sourced material! If you do not cease immediately I will report you to ANI for harrassment and disruption. Giant Snowman 20:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removing unreferenced material is acceptable - it is NOT acceptable to target only/mainly articles I have recently edited, and it is not acceptable for you to delete infoboxes or sourced material. Giant Snowman 20:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crow, You are removing material that shows no signs of being dubious. pointy edits will be taken as disruptive editing. Span (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Crow, you removed sourced material here (the Bibliography section?). You are either lying or you are not checking your edits - neither is good. Giant Snowman 20:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because you have removed sourced material (diff above) and yet claim not to have - so that means you are lying about it, or you do not know you removed it (which means you are not checking your edits). Giant Snowman 20:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So because I edited an article and didnt make it perfect I am a hypocrite? Pull the other one. Giant Snowman 21:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should only re-add the challenged material if it is supported by reliable sources (per WP:BLP, WP:RS, WP:V). Giant Snowman 21:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to calm down and stop shouting. The content I removed from the Manucharayan article was unreferenced and full of POV and OR; the referenced section I removed about a birthday is trivial and unencyclopedic. Giant Snowman 21:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not encyclopedic, it is trivial. And your additions were full of POV - "At the age of 17, he was the best scorer of the club and became an advocate for the youth team of Armenia" - and the rest of your edit is full of poor English. Giant Snowman 21:42, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A typo. It is you who doesn't know what he is talking about. "He obviously became the top goalscorer that year and I'll give a better word than advocate" makes no sense whatsoever. Giant Snowman 21:49, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please go to WP:BLPN or WP:ANI and say that you don't want to add references to an article about a living person because the statements are "obvious" - you'll get laughed off before you've even finished typing. Of course many articles have unreferenced info, that doesn't excuse your edits in the slightest. Giant Snowman 21:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and my name is not Snowball. Show a bit of respect please. Giant Snowman 20:55, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shortening your name to 'Crow' is not "messing" with your name. Giant Snowman 21:08, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, this was a very silly move, I have taken the matter to BLPN. If you don't stop this behaviour it will be going to ANI. Giant Snowman 22:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arsen Beglaryan

I suggest you create the article in a new sandbox, and if it appears notable I will transfer it across to mainspace. Giant Snowman 16:38, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your sandbox is near-impossible to navigate and crashes my browser due to its size. Please move the relevant material on Beglaryan to a 2nd sandbox and I will be able to review. Giant Snowman 17:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't meet WP:NFOOTBALL (hasn't played for Armenia senior team per NFT) and he appears to fail WP:GNG - can you find any more sources for him, which cover him in significant detail, and not just databases? I will then open up the page for creation. Giant Snowman 17:14, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He has not actually played a game for the national team, and the Armenian Premier League is not a fully-professional league - he therefore fails WP:NFOOTBALL. If you are able to show he meets WP:GNG - and you haven't done so yet - then he will be considered notable, hence why I have requested you please look for more sources. Giant Snowman 17:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well sourced does not mean notable - the coverage must be "significant" and not just databases etc. WP:NFOOTBALL does mention playing, and the Armenian Premier League is not listed at WP:FPL. Giant Snowman 18:28, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There aren't enough sources for me to feel confident re:GNG; NFOOTBALL clearly says "Players [...] who have represented their country in any FIFA sanctioned senior international match" are notable; and if the Armenian Premier League is not listed as fully-professional, then it is by default not fully professional - that is simple logic. Stop being so difficult, and please find some more sources if you wish for me to unlock the article. If he is as notable as you claim then that shouldn't be an issue...? Giant Snowman 18:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just because something is true does not mean it is notable. That is basic, basic, basic stuff. Giant Snowman 18:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL or WP:GNG, he is therefore non notable. A league will be considered fully-professional if reliable sources confirm that. Giant Snowman 19:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well I disagree on the sources - why can't you find 1 or 2 more? I have asked you multiple times. If he was notable, it shouldn't be an issue. A league is considered fully-professional if every player that plays in the league is a professional. Giant Snowman 19:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have looked at the sources - as I have stated (far too) many times, they do not meet GNG, as they are WP:ROUTINE and do not cover the subject in significant detail. For the 3rd or 4th time - are more sources available? Giant Snowman 19:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Something more than run-of-the-mill/transfer news - an in-depth piece(s) or interview in national media would suffice. Giant Snowman 19:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, fine, I've opened it up - Arsen Beglaryan. Giant Snowman 20:01, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The vandal

There is no point in warning that individual, they do not care. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_KunoxTxa he is a sockpuppet and has created over 50 accounts just to vandalize Armenian related articles. Ninetoyadome (talk) 17:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gegard Mousasi

Clearly you should know by now that you need reliable sources and should be utilizing the edit summary when making edits to WP:BLP articles. I believe this is what got you banned previously. Again, I undid your edit since it lacks any reliable sourcing and all reliable sources indicate he represents the Netherlands in competition. Find reliable sources which state that he is still a citizen of Iran and/or he represents Iran in competition. This is a pattern and it looks like you are repeating it despite multiple warnings and bans in the past. Based on your past behavior, I will not bother undoing the edit if you choose to re-apply without reliable sourcing, but I will take the matter to WP:ANI instead. BearMan998 (talk) 00:13, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Provide the reliable sources that he is still a citizen of Iran. Secondly, your edit does away that he is a citizen of the Netherlands, intentional or not. Again, this is a pattern you have shown with WP:BLP articles, and I'm not going draw this out any longer than needed. BearMan998 (talk) 01:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't mean he is an Iranian citizen. Being born in Iran doesn't grant you citizenship. Was his father born in Iran or was his father Iranian? Can you confirm that with a reliable source? And then can you confirm that he holds citizenship to this day with a reliable source? Answer that. BearMan998 (talk) 02:03, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You better read that article on Iranian citizenship again. BearMan998 (talk) 02:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re:You

You edited two articles I had created, and they were therefore already on my watchlist. I do not really have a problem with your editing style, all I have done is copy-edit he articles - improve English, remove flowery language, make more neutral, bring up to scratch to meet MOS. Standard stuff. Giant Snowman 17:38, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of ANI discussion

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. BearMan998 (talk) 00:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Karo Parisyan

It would be wise for you to review WP:STICKTOSOURCE, especially for the content you are attempting to put in the Karo Parisyan article. BearMan998 (talk) 23:15, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a smart move and will lead to re-opening of the ANI discussion. BearMan998 (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

April 5, 2013

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Topic ban

Per the discussion on WP:ANI, you are hereby topic banned for the next three months from making edits related to Armenia or biographies of living persons, both broadly construed. Failure to abide by this decision will result in a block. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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