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: [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 09:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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[[User talk:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]]<small> <nowiki>[</nowikI>[[User:AGK|&bull;]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 20:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
[[User talk:AGK|<font color="black">'''AGK'''</font>]]<small> <nowiki>[</nowikI>[[User:AGK|&bull;]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 20:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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Another genetic study

Another - non-fishy ! - study of your concern tends to be this one :Iran: Tricontinental Nexus for Y-Chromosome Driven Migration , that shows the Persian speaking population of Isfahan are more closer to Azeri people of Az.republic in Caucuses and this connection is stronger than connection of Turkey to Az.republic ( Page 140 or Figure 4 )--Alborz Fallah (talk) 08:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the study. I have read it and I am very surprised surprised. I found this very peculiar as I did not expect a providential capital that is within central Iran to have any but the remotest connections to Azeri Turks in the Caucuses or Anatolian Turks. Thank you for sheding light on to this, it turns out the Turkic influence is greater then I thought it to be. Thank you.Tugrulirmak (talk) 08:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article also explains the probable cause of this connection .In brief it says the migration of humans was more possible in the way of Iran-Turkey , comparing to Iran-Pakistan because two large deserts in East and central Iranian basin limits the immigration . Anyway that shows the factor of language is not so important in grouping the humans in genetic aspect : that means a Turkic language of Turkey may be more near in genetic to a northern Iranian with Gillak or Persian language and an Azeri from Az.republic with Turkic language may be more near to an Armenian or a Persian language from Isfahan . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 08:56, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

Hello! Evet durum öyledir, diğer birçok Türkî konulu maddelerde yapılan son derece ırkçı yorumlar bulunmaktadır. Örneğin; Atatürk'ün etnik kökeninin Türkmen olduğu bilinmesine karşılık, birçok uydurma tez akademik olmayan kaynaklardan alınıyor. Alelade bir tarihçinin yaptığı "fine white skin"i olduğuna göre Türk olamaz, "Bulgar sınırındaki bir Slav kadar açık tenli" şeklinde yaptığı saldırgan yorumlara yer veriliyor. Wikipedia objektif olmayan kullanıcılarla dolu, ve Wikipedia yöneticileri de bunlara göz yummakta, ne yazık ki. Thanks and greetings (Kusura bakmayın, bu mesajı Türkçe yazdım çünkü Türklerle kendi sayfalarında başka dilde konuşmak anlamsız geliyor.). -F.Mehmet (talk) 10:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yok canim ne kusuru. Dediklerinize katiliyorum. Wikipedia tarfsiz olmayan kendi cikarlari icin calisanlarla dolu. Sizin dediginiz olaylara cok rastliyorum, mesela Azerilerin Pers oldugunu soyleyen teoriler. Bunlari yazanlara bakarsak goruyoruz ki adamlar ya Iran'da masters yapmis ya iran kokenli vs vs.Tugrulirmak (talk) 14:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I get here to see the answer of my comment .Accidentally I saw that you are informing other editors to participate in certain articles . Just want to mention to be aware of WP:CANVASS , thank you .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can inform other editors to participate in other articles so we can improve the articles nuetrality and the referencing of sources, I see nothing wrong with that. And oh yes, I didn't ask Mr Mehmet anything, he commented on the article before my comment on his talk page, next time please check dates and don't jump at shadows. Thank you.Tugrulirmak (talk) 08:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alborz, be sure Tugrul was not doing something wrong. Also, I've been contributing all of Turkic articles since 2006. We talked about wrong things on Wikipedia. Because he was Turkish, there was no need to write my message in English so I wrote it in Turkish. As Wikipedians, our aim is to improve Wikipedia and as Tugrul said, please check when I commented on the talk page of "Iranian Azaris" and when he sent a message to me. Greetings-F.Mehmet (talk) 12:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I invite you to weigh in here. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ROC vs. Taiwan

Hello! I notice this change (you didn't refer to it in your edit summary)

The thing is, on Wikipedia, we refer to the government that controls Taiwan and surrounding countries as the "Republic of China" - that is what it calls itself WhisperToMe (talk) 21:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am as worried as you are because I can assure you I did not insert neither Taiwan nor ROC, for it is out of my area of interest and my experience in that subject is releatively low. I belive this was a glitch or something for I did not even scroll down, I only inserted information about US withdrawal, I have no memory of adding anything about Taiwan. Do you know where I can report this glitch? I am deeply sorry for any confusion caused.Tugrulirmak (talk) 06:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if it had to do with an edit conflict of some sort.
Bugzilla handles the error reporting for Wikimedia projects - Please refer to the diff above when reporting the bug
Apologies accepted, by the way :)
WhisperToMe (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of editing restrictions

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to Armenia-Azerbaijan and related conflicts. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Final decision section of the decision page.

Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, with the appropriate sections of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures, and with the case decision page.

AGK [] 20:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]