User talk:TwilightRukia
TwilightRukia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I'm not "abusing multiple accounts". The only other account I ever had here was "MidnightRukia", but I couldn't get it to work, so I never ended up using it and got this one instead. I've had this for months and have never used any other account but this one, and I have not editted Wiki anonymously either. In the many months I've been here, I've never had any problems or gotten into any trouble. However, recently, a certain user-Erigu-started making troublesome edits to over a dozen different pages, all relating to the game Wild ARMs. This user kept changing the capitalization of the word "ARMs", even though there are official materials and in-game references that use that. They changed it every time it appeared in all those articles, and when I politely asked Erigu to stop and join in the discussion going on about this matter, I was accused of being a bunch of other users. I don't know what makes anyone think that I am these individuals, but I am not. I've never even heard of them, and I've never talked with them either, that I know of. It seems unfair to me, that this Erigu makes abusive edits, makes accusations when challenged, and then a perfectly good editor like myself gets banned. And not only that, but by a mod who is making the same abusive edits and completely disregarding the discussion page. Again, this is my only account, and I am requesting it be unblocked.
Decline reason:
Hi, Fragments of Jade. As you remember, I was one of the administrators who was talking with you when you were User:Weisheit-A_Sane_Kind_of_Madness, so I recognized your editing style right away. It's certainly you, and you were ardently claiming that you weren't the same user back then, too. Could you please stop? — FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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TwilightRukia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
What editing style?! I'm not these people! I've been a member here for months, and this is the ONLY account I've ever used. I didn't even have a computer until recently! In all the time I've edited here, I've never had even the slightest trouble. Then, suddenly, this Erigu pulls a fast one for what seems to be the third or fourth time, and I'm being accused of being an account abuser? Any fan of the Wild ARMs series, which Erigu has seemingly admitted to never even playing, would oppose these edits, especially with the discussion going on. And as mentioned, I tried to talk the user into a discussion and even tried to get the admins to interfere. And until that time, I thought the article should remain as it was, considering how hard it was to keep changing it and the large number of articles involved. You admins need to catch on to Erigu's game already. This user has admitted they have not played the series. Despite this, they watch all the sections, then make drastic edits out of nowhere and do whatever they can to stir up trouble. If you don't believe this, just look at what they did with all the other users who have been accused and blocked. I explain it in more detail below. I repeat, this is the ONLY account I've ever used. I don't know what "editing style" you think I share with these people, and you never bothered to tell me, so I doubt there is anything to tell. It seems like this is just a case of Erigu getting their friends to do their bidding. If any other user made drastic, uncited edits like that, refused discussion or looking at evidence disagreeing with them, harassed many users and stalked them around Wiki, they would get blocked. But somehow, Erigu is still doing these things and hasn't been, and I've had plenty of time while waiting to get unblocked to look into it.
Decline reason:
unblock requests that blame other people for your own actions are doomed to fail — Spartaz Humbug! 13:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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TwilightRukia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Oh, what a cover-up! What actions?! All I did were reverse a bunch of edits that were harmful, made by a user who was just trying to start trouble and ignored the discussion going on despite knowing of it, and that's not even why I was blocked. What, are you just making stuff up? I was blocked because Erigu pulled another fast one and accused someone who dared call her out on her uncited, disruptive edits a sockpuppet. I am not any of the users you guys are claiming, and while the first person to decline neglected to tell me what editing style they spoke of, you are speaking of some actions. My actions on Wikipedia were fine-did you even READ my request? I've been a member here for months, and I've never gotten into any trouble. My actions regarding this matter were fine too-I fixed the articles, attempted to politely ask Erigu to stop and instead join the discussion, and tried to get the admins to step in and tell Erigu this when they refused to do that. I was blocked solely because of that accusation, even though it had no basis and was made simply because I challenged Erigu on edits any good fan would have.
Decline reason:
It's evident from your fixation on the "WildARMs" spelling issue that you are a sock of the user mentioned by FisherQueen. — Sandstein 20:11, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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TwilightRukia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
You cannot accuse someone of being a sock just because they share an interest in the same edit as another person. Any fan of the game knows it is "ARMs" and not "Arms". Also, any good editor can see how disruptive and rude it is to edit when you are not sure you are right and are just ignoring the ongoing discussions, especially with such a great number of pages. You've all still yet to provide any solid evidence to suggest I'm any of these people which I'm not.
Decline reason:
OK, that's enough. It's obvious from the discussions below that this same bullshit would happen all over again if we unblocked you. You can't change your mind and won't change the subject, per Winston Churchill's famous definition of a fanatic. And since too much of the aforementioned bullshit is already all over the page below, I'm protecting it so we won't have to read these anymore. — Daniel Case (talk) 03:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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As a side note, that Erigu person is now going around Wikipedia and undoing every single edit I have made. I believe they are singling out and attacking editors just for sport. Looking at their history, they have done this repeatedly. They look for a user they can easily make an accusation towards when that person realizes what they are doing, then goes around undoing their edits until that happens. Someone really needs to do something about this...It looks like I'm just going to become another victim of this horrible person.TwilightRukia (talk) 09:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- As a side note, that Erigu person is now going around Wikipedia and undoing every single edit I have made.
- Exaggerating much? Erigu (talk) 09:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the admins here can't see what you're doing, but it's obvious, considering you've done this same thing with all the individuals you accused me of being. You seem to be staking out the Wild ARMs pages, and the minute someone catches your interest, you start going around undoing their edits or making harmful edits to the pages they show interest in. When you are called out, you immediately accuse that person of being one on that list and have one of your friends on the Wikipedia staff ban them. And it's obvious you have friends on the staff, since you got me banned, and I know I've never had any account but this one and the one I couldn't get working. I'll do whatever it takes to put an end to your sick little game. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's cyber-bullies and stalkers.TwilightRukia (talk) 09:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe the admins here can't see what you're doing
- Why don't you show them? Go ahead and show them how I'm undoing "every single edit" you have made.
- you've done this same thing with all the individuals you accused me of being.
- And you should know...
- You seem to be staking out the Wild ARMs pages, and the minute someone catches your interest, you start going around undoing their edits or making harmful edits to the pages they show interest in.
- Er... Actually, you undid my edits on those articles. But, hey, never mind that.
- When you are called out, you immediately accuse that person of being one on that list and have one of your friends on the Wikipedia staff ban them.
- I don't believe I have any friend on the Wikipedia staff...
- it's obvious you have friends on the staff, since you got me banned
- I'm seeing another possible explanation, here... Erigu (talk) 09:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Your edits were the harmful ones! "Wild ARMs" has been stated as official in three games, it's stated in all the games, and the matter was being debated. You came along and made all those edits because you knew someone would take notice and undo them. And it was likely whoever chose to do so was going to be your next victim. If it hadn't been me, it could just as easily have been someone else. You've nothing to base your accusations on, yet they were believed and I was banned instantly, just like all those other uers. No reason was given, and no proof was posted. And in each of those cases, you also did this-showed up on their talk page to further antagonize them. I will do whatever it takes to make you reap what you sow. You've gotten so many people banned, and since I'm innocent, they probably were too. Playing with people's lives is a horrible thing to do, and you need to stop it.TwilightRukia (talk) 09:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- "Wild ARMs" has been stated as official in three games
- And the capitalization "Wild Arms" has been officially used in the English versions of all games except for one.
- the matter was being debated
- Yes, and you were there, but you weren't listening, apparently.
- it was likely whoever chose to do so was going to be your next victim.
- It was likely you'd show up, yeah, I guess...
- You've gotten so many people banned
- Just you, really.
- Playing with people's lives is a horrible thing to do, and you need to stop it.
- Whuh? Erigu (talk) 09:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
You've done this before to-used sarcasm to antagonize your victims. You're flat-out lying about the "Wild Arms" statement. Have you even played the games? All of the games feature "ARMs", which go "Wild" in some way. Anyone who has played the series knows this-the ARMs are what the whole series revolves around. You know you had no right to make those harmful edits, and it seems from your responses that you haven't played the games at all, otherwise, you would know you're wrong. And if you have not played them, that supports what I was saying about you just making edits to harass people. You've clearly never played Siren, either. Get off my talk page and stay off. It's bad enough you're vandalizing every other article out there.TwilightRukia (talk) 09:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- You're flat-out lying about the "Wild Arms" statement.
- Wild Arms: [1]
- Wild Arms 2: [2]
- Wild Arms 3: [3]
- Wild Arms Alter Code: F: [4]
- Wild Arms 4: [5]
- Wild Arms 5: [6]
- Wild Arms XF is the only Wild Arms game whose English title was never (as far as I can tell?) officially capitalized as "Arms."
- But you already know that...
- You've clearly never played Siren, either.
- Whatever, Jade. Erigu (talk) 10:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
And you hoped to prove what, exactly? That one site made the same mistake repeatedly? XSEED's official site has labelled 4, 5, and XF as "Wild ARMs". The official site for 2 uses a bunch of different variations. And sites are only credible if they actually know what they are talking about and are not just guessing at the title. The games make the official title of "Wild ARMs" clear, but then, you would know that, if you had actually ever played the games, which you haven't. And no matter how much you call me names, you are only proving your own immaturity.TwilightRukia (talk) 10:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- sites are only credible if they actually know what they are talking about and are not just guessing at the title.
- And naturally, the "knowledgeable sites" would be the ones that prove you right, huh? Yeah, don't bother coming up with valid arguments... Erigu (talk) 10:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
One could easily say the same thing to you.TwilightRukia (talk) 10:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, except for, you know... the actual rebuttal. It's not like I'm the one pretending to be able to tell (somehow?) which sites are "knowledgeable" and which ones aren't...
- I'm simply saying "Wild Arms" is more common a capitalization. And I proved my point. Erigu (talk) 10:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
You ARE pretending to know. You changed all those pages without taking part in the discussions, and when someone else suggested you do so and tried to tell you otherwise, you threw around accusations out of nowhere. The fact of the matter is, aside from the fact that numerous official sites use it, "Wild ARMs" is used in the games and is the only title that makes sense. You changing those pages like you seriously believe you are right when you know you aren't was wrong and likely just meant to antagonize people. You proved nothing at all. You only contradicted yourself.TwilightRukia (talk) 10:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- You proved nothing at all.
- I did, you're ignoring my arguments, I'm sick of your lies and bad faith, and I'm done.
- Have fun getting blocked. Again. Erigu (talk) 10:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Ugh, you're disgusting. Your "arguments"? You did nothing but point out a site that messes up all the titles, and you didn't even address the fact that the name "Wild ARMs" is used in the games and is the only one that makes sense. Why? Because you can't. Because you've never played the games. You just made those edits to claim more victims. Seriously, what's it gonna take for an admin to see through Erigu's charade? How many people are gonna get blocked like this before then? It's clear they are just doing it to antagonize people, and their responses support that, as do Erigu's messing with other edits I've made for no reason other than to further harass me. Someone needs to look at this user's history. A brief glance is pretty telling when it comes to me and the many other people she's gotten blocked for alleged duplicate accounts.TwilightRukia (talk) 11:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Have you considered stopping?[edit]
You are ardently convinced that the capitalization "Wild ARMs" makes more sense. You might be right; maybe that would be a better title. Me, I kind of like the capitalization "Wild Arms," because I don't care for lots of capital letters in titles. So, if you were publishing this game, you'd use ARMS, and if I were publishing it, I'd use Arms. That's okay. But for the article, the only question that matters is, what title does the publisher use? Not the title you are certain it should have, but the title that's actually being used. Your argument is, "but Wild ARMS is a better, more logical title," while the argument of the other people in that discussion is, "it might be a more logical title, but it isn't the title they chose." -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- PS: Since I've never played the game, I'm forced to rely on reliable sources. Of course, that's what Wikipedia's rules require. If you're right, someone who has the reliable sources to prove it will come and correct it clearly; you don't need to create any more accounts. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
You're wrong. "Wild ARMs" IS what's used by the publishers, which is why Erigu had no business changing it, especially with the discussion going on. If you don't believe me, check out the news on the official site of XSEED and see for yourself, though I already mentioned this many times above, and if you had actually bothered to read what I wrote, you would have seen as much. I tried to convince the person making the edits to join in the discussion instead of changing over 12 articles to support their uncited belief, and when that didn't work, I tried to get the admins to step in. I'm not whatever users you seem to think I am. What I am, is an avid player of Wild ARMs, and pretty much any RPG. And answer me this, why is it okay for Erigu to mass-edit so many articles to say "Arms" with no confirmation that's the title, but it's not okay for other users to do that with "ARMs", which is both used by the publishers, used in the games, and makes the most sense?TwilightRukia (talk) 12:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- You're wrong. "Wild ARMs" IS what's used by the publishers
- Prove it already.
- If you don't believe me, check out the news on the official site of XSEED and see for yourself
- Well, whaddayaknow... They're actually using "Arms" for their Wild Arms 4 site. 'Guess they're not quite as adamant as you are about the "ARMs" capitalization after all, huh?
- And how about the other publishers, Jade? You know? For the United Kingdom? Or other games in the series? Publishers like SCEA, Agetec, 505 Games? Oh, right: they don't know what they're talking about. Because you said so. Erigu (talk) 13:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Nice try, but I said XSEED's site. And I already adressed both Agetect and SCEA-try reading before you speak. I won't even consider 505-most of the games on their site seem to have title errors. Try making an actual argument for once.TwilightRukia (talk) 18:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nice try, but I said XSEED's site.
- Oh, dear... Is there something above "bad faith?" "Terrible faith?" "Atrocious faith?"
- When on XSEED Games' site, when you click on Wild Arms 4 in their list of games, you're taken to the page I linked above. Because it's *gasp* their official page for the game. Now, you keep saying that XSEED Games are reliable because they know what they're talking about (whereas other publishers just don't... because!), and I just gave you an example of them using the capitalization "Arms." And "ARMS," too, at the bottom of the page. Damn, Jade, they're all over the place!
- I already adressed both Agetect and SCEA-try reading before you speak.
- You just said that SCEA was mistaken. And that's apparently all it takes, according to you. When did you address Agetec?
- I won't even consider 505-most of the games on their site seem to have title errors.
- Yeah, "most of them"... I remember how you proved that one. You pointed out one capitalization mistake.[7] When you mentioned that publisher again, they were (somehow) wrong for "numerous titles."[8] And eventually, you claimed that they were wrong all the time.[9] I guess we're supposed to find that convincing. 'Sure looks like you think it's clever, anyway. But really, it's none of these things. It's just baffling and dumb. And, like the sockpuppetry thing, it only goes to show how dishonest and shameless you are (that would be "a lot"). Erigu (talk) 20:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Would you go away already? You're not proving anything, and your sarcasm is getting really tiring, as well as your shameless lies and insults. XSEED has the official name on THEIR site. Not their WA site, THEIR site. You don't even play the series, which I see you admitted to. You're pathetic. You've got nothing more in your life than sitting on Wikipedia, harassing people. You have never played this game-you're just abusing the articles to find more people you can label as "socks". I wonder how many innocent users will have to get banned before an admin catches on and blocks you. I'm sick of people like you who bully others and ruin articles for perfectly good games. I'm sticking to the Wild ARMs Wiki, where people like you will never be able to edit.TwilightRukia (talk) 00:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- XSEED has the official name on THEIR site. Not their WA site, THEIR site.
- I know they also capitalize the title "Wild ARMs." 'Never said otherwise. I was pointing out that they were inconsistent about it. Which, by the same "logic" you displayed earlier, would make them every bit as unreliable as those other baaaad publishers.
- I'm sticking to the Wild ARMs Wiki, where people like you will never be able to edit.
- lolwat Erigu (talk) 01:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Editing style[edit]
You asked me to explain what 'editing style' is. Your editing style is made of many factors, including the subjects you are interested in, the vocabulary you use, the punctuation style of your writing, your grammatical habits... a thoughtful reader can easily identify and recognize these things, just as you would recognize a story by your favorite writer even if her name were not on it. If you haven't learned about this in school yet, you probably will very soon; ask your favorite English teacher to give you a more detailed explanation of the factors you can use to describe a writer's individual writing style. Even a very good writer finds it difficult to hide her personal writing style. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
-.-Don't talk down to me. I've been out of school for years. I know what an editting style is, but you've not shown anything that would suggest me and these people you claim are socks are one and the same.TwilightRukia (talk) 00:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- I know what an editting style is, but you've not shown anything that would suggest me and these people you claim are socks are one and the same.
- See what I did, here? Take the hint, Jade. You've been making the same typo for months now, and I did tell you that it is one of the details that give you away when you're using sock puppets.[10] Take the freaking hint already.
- Like I told you before, you're not just a liar: you're a terrible liar. So you should just stop. Seriously. Find new (and hopefully more honest) methods to prevail in debates, 'cause you'll never get this one to work. Erigu (talk) 01:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
That was a typo. It happens. The only liar here is you, Erigu. Mark my words, I'm going to do whatever it takes to get you blocked. You're more well-known than I thought-there's already a huge online movement against you. Your harassment has made a lot of enemies. The one who needs to stop here is you. You're disruptive, rude, and a horrible liar. Also, you repeatedly break the rules, yet get away with it because you have friends on staff. If any other editor did the stuff you've done, they would be blocked in an instant. You'll get blocked-you and the admins who are letting you get away with murder. Enjoy your internet terrorism while it lasts, because the WAPS are gonna take you out.TwilightRukia (talk) 01:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, as I swore, I joined WAPS. There's a whole section devoted to purging the disease that is you, spreading across Wiki. Gotta love karma.^^TwilightRukia (talk) 02:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Ha. Your ignorance won't help you now. And stop posting those links-I copied and pased that sentence on each of those articles, which is why they all have the same mistake. Your antics are as lame as ever, Mr. Thorton.TwilightRukia (talk) 02:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ha. Your ignorance won't help you now.
- Spoken like a true... er... fan fiction writer.
- stop posting those links-I copied and pased that sentence on each of those articles, which is why they all have the same mistake.
- Well, they're not all the same sentence. But yeah, I had fun with that one. I have to admit I love how you're telling people that they're going overboard by going overboard.
- Your antics are as lame as ever, Mr. Thorton.
- OMG, it's totally my name!
- ...
- Well, no, it's not (at all... besides, I'm French, remember?), but I thought I should help you out with that one. Actually, it's kinda weird you'd want to go there considering I know your real name, but hey...
- (no need to go paranoid on me again, I won't post it... I'm not quite as far gone as you appear to be, fortunately...) Erigu (talk) 02:30, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Fanfiction writer? As if I had the time. I'm well aware of the fact that you live in France, but you were born in England. Every word you utter just proves how much you're a troll. My real name? I'm sure you do. You still seem to think I'm a girl, which I'm not. I've nothing to hide. My first name is "Mark", and my last name is not your business. I work at a buffet in a coastal state, which is agian none of your business. Unlike you, I've no reason to hide my identity. I'll take you down as myself and will be proud to do so. I have no respect for men who stalk and prey on women. Men is bad enough, but women too? Are you some kind of offender? Maybe I should try running your name and location through one of those websites.TwilightRukia (talk) 02:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Fanfiction writer? As if I had the time.
- ... she said, before making stuff up about my place of birth, and coming up with a fake identity for herself. Plain awesome.
- you were born in England.
- Yeah, and I'm a member of your private Wild Arms forum, too. Oh, and I'm a woman. I almost forgot about that one.
- Well, I sure never suspected all that. Talk about self-discovery. Thanks for that, Jade! Erigu (talk) 02:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't own any forums, nor do I write any fanfiction. And I didn't make up any of that. It's what the people from WAPS have come up with. It's already begun-you just haven't realized it yet.XDTwilightRukia (talk) 02:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)