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{{unblock reviewed |1=Edit warring, yes. I won't deny that engaging with a user who was extremely rude and unhinged caused me to get upset, especially when I saw that their behavior was rewarded. I reverted an inappropriate amount because I believed it was clear that their edits were without merit. Because of this, I'm not requesting a complete unblock, just a reduction in length. But block evasion is completely false. I have not edited Wikipedia before this week. I do not have a Wikipedia account, I have never had a Wikipedia account, I am unlikely to ever make a Wikipedia account. I am happy to provide any proof that's suggested to me. Unfortunately I don't have the technical knowledge to do anything proactively, but surely admins can check my IP range against the IP range of the user I'm supposedly a sockpuppet of. |decline = Try again without the [[WP:NPA|personal attack]]. [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 20:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)}}


(Unblock request removed. Text of request: "Edit warring, yes. I won't deny that being personally attacked caused me to get upset, especially when I saw that the attacker's behavior was rewarded. I reverted an inappropriate amount because I believed it was clear that I was correct. Because of this, I'm not requesting a complete unblock, just a reduction in length. But block evasion is completely false. I have not edited Wikipedia before this week. I do not have a Wikipedia account, I have never had a Wikipedia account, I am unlikely to ever make a Wikipedia account. I am happy to provide any proof that's suggested to me. Unfortunately I don't have the technical knowledge to do anything proactively, but surely admins can check my IP range against the IP range of the user I'm supposedly a sockpuppet of.")

Actually, because of Wikipedia's policy of allowing personal information about editors to be kept confidential, administrators can't see what IP addresses are used by an account, and although [[WP:CheckUser|CheckUsers]] can, they are not allowed to do so except under very specific circumstances, which don't apply in this case. I am far from certain that you are not evading a block on an account, but I have decided to give you the benefit of the doubt, and treat it as just a a case of edit-warring, and so I have reduced the block length to 48 hours from now. I am leaving your unblock request open, but if you are willing to accept that reduced block as a response to your request for a reduction of time, it will be helpful if you can remove the request, to save administrators from spending their time reviewing it. Alternatively, any administrator is welcome to either close the unblock request in any way they see fit, without consulting me. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 21:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

::{{Comment}} I opened a [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Manafeistlanguage|sockpuppet investigation about this user and provided the diffs for his disruptive edits]] before the block (diffs for all of their edits: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119138344], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hebrews&oldid=1119135836], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samaritans&oldid=1119136894], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118423375], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118664225], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118667171], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118754252], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118764230], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noahidism&oldid=1119319199], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119357057], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119409849], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119465465], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53]). Maybe I'm wrong and these two are not the same person, but it could be a block evasion if these anonymous IP addresses belong to the same blocked user, as [[WP:DUCK|their persistent, identical pattern of edit warring and disruptive editing on the same Judaism-related articles in the last 48 hours seem to demonstrate]]. I still believe that admins should take a look at this and investigate further. Moreover, [[WP:NOTHERE|provoking me countless of times to revert him/her again while the discussion is still ongoing on the talk page means that he/she is just asking for a block and doesn't want to engage in a collaborative manner with other editors]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119357057], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119409849], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119465465], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53]), instead of looking for a [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]]; an astonishing example of [[WP:POINT]]. They also admitted on the talk page of the article [[God in Abrahamic religions]] that those IPs that continued to engage in edit warring and deliberate removal of content on the article were not "multiple editors", it's only one person ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119472885#NO_WP:CONSENSUS_to_remove_sourced_content]). [[User:GenoV84|GenoV84]] ([[User talk:GenoV84|talk]]) 23:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
:::The "multiple editors" comment was in reference to the named account who made the original edit that you reverted on that page. I have explicitly identified myself with two previous IPs in the interest of <i>not</i> creating the false appearance of consensus. I have never attempted to hide anything. I certainly hope that an admin does take a look at those talk pages, because being blocked for not being aware of Wiki norms while you get away with attacking me personally and not addressing my arguments is very frustrating. Having read through the page on [[WP:DE|disruptive editing]], I believe any neutral observer would recognize that you violated every bullet point on that page (and then attempted to meatpuppet [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Iskandar323&oldid=1119470285#Persistent_vandalism_on_God_in_Abrahamic_religions][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tamzin&oldid=1119470645#Persistent_vandalism_on_God_in_Abrahamic_religions] as well). [[Special:Contributions/2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53|2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53]] ([[User talk:2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53#top|talk]]) 00:49, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
::::Also I've just learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system... this could not be a more accurate description of what's happening right now. [[Special:Contributions/2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53|2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53]] ([[User talk:2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53#top|talk]]) 00:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

:::::You clearly can't see that your complaints and arguments are flawed and inconsistent with your own ''modus operandi'' ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119138344], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hebrews&oldid=1119135836], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samaritans&oldid=1119136894], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118423375], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118664225], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118667171], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118754252], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ger_toshav&oldid=1118764230], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noahidism&oldid=1119319199], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119357057], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119409849], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God_in_Abrahamic_religions&oldid=1119465465], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7081:4E0F:920D:A5AD:A58F:13D:FF53]). Everyone is welcome to improve this encyclopedia, but [[WP:REFREMOVAL|deleting sourced content supported by multiple reliable references without discussion]] because you personally disagree with the content of those sources [[WP:DISRUPTIVE|is a form of disruptive editing]] and also a [[WP:NOTCENSORED|blatant attempt to censorship of encyclopedic informations on Wikipedia]], and the same disruptive behavior of other vandals has been reverted multiple times by me and other longstanding editors on the articles that you tried to disrupt for the exact same reason.

Moreover, [[WP:PA|instead of accusing me of racism, antisemitism, and all kinds of offensive stuff in a failed attempt of character assassination]] as you attempted to do on [[Talk:Ger toshav]], I suggest you to try to do something more productive and collaborate with other editors in a civil, appropriate manner on Wikipedia, once the block has expired. And remember to [[WP:NOPA|avoid provoking and using personal attacks against other editors, as you already did many times]], both here and on the aforementioned talk page. [[User:GenoV84|GenoV84]] ([[User talk:GenoV84|talk]]) 08:01, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

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