User talk:Abecedare

Former Sock

I see that when I make a constructive edit, my edits are reverted with description that of sock. Why is that? And you allow edits by former sockpuppeter who used various accounts to make edits. He makes changes as he personally feels best. He reverts changes back to the way he made through his other sock accounts. See his history here [1]. You can view my edits and verify the sources that my changes are all constructive. So how can you put your trust on editor like him who is just using this privilege to add back the changes that were removed when he was blocked? Shouldn’t such editors be banned from making changes to all topics and articles that they vandalized before being blocked? What are your thoughts on this? 2600:1016:B006:387C:815E:E90A:74B8:5F71 (talk) 14:09, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

You have the option of stopping your abusive sockpuppetry and, like Suthasianhistorian8, requesting a standard-offer unblock. Until then, all your contributions are unwelcome on wikipedia. Abecedare (talk) 14:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately. this user is back with another sock account [2]. On top of that he's making false claims on this article [3] regarding the Battle of Amritsar. He seems to be absolutely unrelenting. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 00:20, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Commented at the SPI. Lets see what the CU says. Abecedare (talk) 03:22, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Can the pages 1987 Lalru bus massacre and 1991 Rudrapur bombings be protected? I posted on Requests for Page Protection, but unfortunately they got declined, most likely because the admin was unfamiliar with HaughtonBrit's history. He is disruptively editing the former page. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:23, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:57, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Semied for a month since 24.154.112.204 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 2601:547:B03:4000:0:0:0:0/50 etc is clearly them. Can extend or raise to ECP if it becomes necessary. Abecedare (talk) 18:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

I am great ful that you did not block my IP because this is used by me only. I told you before that there are multiple editors in my summer school who all live in same complex but I do not understand why you choose to ignore as admin. I also came to know of hartybrit person who is a sophomore and told him about the disturbance he caused but he said he has already been making edits with his account which he had for 3 yrs but he only uses that account when he goes back to his home state to not be able to get detected. He said he only uses IP changes or some sock accounts for now to create diversion. This has caused collateral damage to other editors. Some of the users who got blocked such as Pindi Singh, he found it amusing because it wasn’t him. I checked if there was any one using that account among others but did not find any. Other editor friends said are worried too that they can get blocked but probably did not get detected because they make edits to mostly Hindu articles and use the college IP address. Please do not block my IP. Please discuss with other admins. My IP is unnecessarily being dragged into this just like some other innocent accounts. 2600:1016:B02B:31D7:95C0:28BB:2BB:71DD (talk) 23:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Uncooperative editor

Hello, this editor Gopalchan45678 is making questionable edits on the page Punjabi Suba. I tried to start a discussion with him on the talk page [4], but he seems disinterested in interlocution. I'm wondering if the page could be fully protected and his most recent edits reverted, and he be asked to discuss on the talk page. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 11:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

@Suthasianhistorian8: I have blocked the editor from that article for a week, encouraged them to discuss, and informed them that this is a contentious area. Note that while you are able to edit the article, be aware of WP:3RR, explain clearly any edits you make, and use the talkpage/dispute resolution to resolve any disputes. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 14:05, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I will try to abide to BRD as best as possible. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Pablo Escobar

Hi, I have mentioned you on Pablo Escobar's talk page about a discussion which I believe does not require any source because it is just a Spanish mistranslation. I would like to have your opinion. Best. ҢДMM®(Hundry Marquina!) 22:50, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@HAMM: Not sure why you chose me to weigh in since I haven't edited the article or the topic area. But I took a look at the dispute and added my my 2c in any case. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 20:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Editing about India

Diplomacy, defense and economy are three different contents, which should be described separately. Moreover, the content of the original article is messy and outdated. It has not joined the important international organizations that India has participated in in recent years, and some organizations such as G8+5 have disappeared. Only the revised content can reflect Wikipedia The standards of major countries such as the United States, Japan, etc. are introduced as participating in the G20 and quadrilateral security dialogues, and so should India, and India’s cooperation with Europe and France should be introduced together (EU countries), not the United States, the United States and the United States. India's relationship is not attached to Europe Бмхүн (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Бмхүн: Lets keep this discussion on Talk:India. Abecedare (talk) 20:13, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Help

Can you help me with my article Chanda dynasty. Because it is having difficulty in publishing, can you also look at the sources of Khoh kingdom for this? Your trusted partner KC. -- Karsan Chanda (talk) 10:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

@Karsan Chanda: I took a look at Draft:Chanda dynasty and am afraid that it has the same problem as what was discussed at Alan Singh AFD. It is unclear if they existed and, more importantly, nobody has discussed the historic/legendary dynasty at any length. There are only trivial mentions, in a sentence or two, in Tod (not a reliable source!) and later works that reference him such as Meena, Hooja etc. Given the state of sources this possibly justifies a short sentence, at best, in Meena or related articles but doesn't come close to satisfying WP:THREE. Abecedare (talk) 14:09, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

@Karsan Chanda: I just recalled that you are topic-banned from "from all pages and discussions related to either India, Pakistan or Afghanistan", so the above discussion would constitute a tobic-ban violation that I inadvertently aided. I don't intend to report it but lets stop the discussion now and not ignore the restrictions any more. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 14:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Requesting closure of Topic Ban Appeal

Hey Abecedare, just to know my appeal was archived without any closure of the summary of my appeal. I am just wondering whether you think you can take a look at it to review to decide whether you agree with my explanation? Thanks. NicholasHui (talk) 13:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. Abecedare (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Bijou1995 Sockpuppetry

I am the user who reverted the edit of Bijou1995 on Adam Leitman Bailey, causing her to start an ANI and Arbitration against me before her eventual banning by you. For my own edification as an editor, what would have been the right thing to do when I reverted her edit initially? I asked whether the revert was done by a sockpuppet in the edit summary but would there have been a better course of action? I was hesitant to initiate a sockpuppet investigation myself (as a relatively inexperienced editor), but if it is the best thing to do going forward I will do that. Thank you in advance for your feedback and thank you for settling this matter! Iloveapphysics (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

@Iloveapphysics: In terms of best practice, it is indeed advisable to raise sock-puppet suspicions at WP:SPI where they can be properly investigated and addressed. Or, if one is not too confident of the merits of the suspicion or unfamiliar with the procedure, one can ask an admin on their user-talkpage to take a quick look to see if the case is worth pursuing or dropping. If you choose the latter route, it is best, if possible, to approach an (active) admin who has previously dealt with the article and/or suspected sockmaster. In your particular instance, following links from the article history to BellaRumi1982 (talk · contribs) and their block log, one can determine that Blablubbs would have been the ideal admin to approach. Edit-summaries are considered a poor venue to voice suspicions because they are widely seen, don't provide enough space for context or evidence, are difficult to correct or take-back, and because the accused cannot easily respond to them (see WP:SUMMARYNO).

That said, the "error" you made is of the kind that almost all of us have made several times and the blowback you have received is IMO disproportionate to the severity of the mistake. So while you should try to keep the above in mind from hereon, don't fret too much about the singular incident. Wikipedia-editing is not always so drama-laden or adversarial. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 03:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Scottywong case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Evidence. Please add your evidence by June 21, 2023, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Scottywong/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Request for Assistance: Restoration of Wikipedia Page Formatting

Edited by an User @2402:8100:31be:2085:3580:ab14:395:622b Albert P Xavier (talk) 05:50, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Albert for spotting the problem at Siddharthnagar district and bringing it to the attention of other editors.

As you may have noticed, the problem, which was caused by a missing closing ']' bracket, has been resolved by Prbitti's reverting the original edit. If you see similar issues in the future you are welcome to do the reversion yourself, ask for help at WP:TEAHOUSE where they'll guide you to a more specialized forum if needed, or approach me or any other experienced editor on their talk-page. Happy editing! Abecedare (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Deletion of a page

Hi! I had a query/request for you. According do Wiki's page creation policy, a article must have quite a few citations to support it, according to my understanding. I came across a page, K. Annamalai which is with regard to a erstwhile Member of the Legislative Assembly (India) all thw way in 2001. Th entire article has only two references and the personality is hardly prominent too. Frankly, I don't see this article having any relevance on Wikipedia. Hence, I would be grateful, if you could give me your opinion being an experienced editor and perhaps nominate it for speedy deletion. Thank you! ChaitanyaJo (talk) 07:04, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@ChaitanyaJo: As a member of the state legislative assembly, K. Annamalai is presumed to be notable on wikipedia per WP:NPOL. Abecedare (talk) 14:22, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@Abecedare I see, thanks for clearing it up. ChaitanyaJo (talk) 16:09, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Question on source reliabilty

Hi. If you don't mind, can you provide your opinion on the reliability of this source [5] which was published in 2014. The section used as a citiation in the page Battle of Mangal was written by Surekha- who at the time was a research scholar in the Department of History in Panjab Univeristy [6] (Please see the very bottom of the page). The registration date for her PhD scholarship was in 2011. From my limited understanding as I'm not familiar with the process of attaining a PhD, she completed her doctoral degree in 2019 [7], which would mean she was a PhD student while her work appeared in the IJR section. Does Wikipedia generally consider the work of PhD students who have not yet graduated as reliable? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

@Suthasianhistorian8: Anything published by Lulu.com (a pay to publish outfit blacklisted on wikipedia) is dubious and the "International Journal of Research", which indiscriminately invites works by "Scientists, Engineers, Architects, Planners, Practitioners, Administrators, Scholars, Graduate and Post Graduate students", is particularly so. Technically anything published in this journal would be regarded as a self-published work and needs to be evaluated based on the expertise of the author etc. In this case, the author's credentials don't come close to overcoming the redflags raised by the venue.

PS: I recall commenting about IJR elsewhere on wikipedia recently, although I don't recall if it was about the same article. Will add a link if I manage to locate it. Abecedare (talk) 19:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I will go ahead and remove the IJR sources and its corresponding content on the page. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Here's my earlier comment. And yes, it was about the same "article" although given the junkiness of the "journal", I had not even bothered to look into the authorship, what the article claimed etc. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2023 (UTC)