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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Astral Leap

Thank you for creating Maarten Groothuizen.

User:Lefcentreright, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Maybe add a Help:Infobox?

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LefcentrerightDiscuss 16:52, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Lefcentreright:, done.--Astral Leap (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other accounts

Did you or do you have any other accounts? - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:03, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have Facebook. And why have you come a-calling? Is there a connection to the WP:NONAZIS block of your buddy with whom you share views on Affirmative action and Aryanization?--Astral Leap (talk) 10:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I meant other accounts on Wikipedia. I would appreciate the answer. Thank you. - GizzyCatBella🍁 11:00, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And you come here because your good friend got blocked? No is the answer to your question.--Astral Leap (talk) 11:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Please accept cookies and welcome message from me, happy editing

- GizzyCatBella🍁 11:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Pls stop

Astral Leap, I just want to let you know that I do not feel comfortable with you "policing" my interactions on Wikipedia. This is the second time that you reported me for matters steaming form discussions/edits you were not even involved in, based on those two instances it appears that you are actively monitoring my activity — this behavior is actually pretty worrisome and I'm not comfortable with it. --E-960 (talk) 07:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not policing you. I saw disruption, and reported it.--Astral Leap (talk) 09:49, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GizzyCatBella ad-hoc prosecutions

Look, these ad-hoc prosecutions are getting a bit much, so please refrain from now on. I can make it an official WP:ACDS action, if you prefer. El_C 15:53, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El_C, I did not seek this out and this is not a "prosecution". I reported her once to AE, after she filed a baseless SPI against me (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CommanderWaterford/Archive). She continues to stick her nose where ever I go, as she did here on 26 January (on a page not involving her) with insinuations against me, repeating the same baseless charges. The minor edit issue started for me, when GizzyCatBella reverted me (preceding two edits) with a minor flag, which is a wrong use of the WP:MINOR flag. I placed a cordial notice on minor use on her talk page, and thought she would just take notice and stop it (though her reverting my post was rude). Then yesterday she made this edit, which isn't minor yet marked minor, on a page on my watch list. The marking as minor obscures it on the watch list. My motivation in bringing this to ANI was solely to get GizzyCatBella to stop using the minor flag incorrectly - I tried first to raise this directly with GizzyCatBella, but was ignored.--Astral Leap (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I expressly focused on the technical aspect here, as rectifying the miss-marking as minor should be a very straightforward remedy and there is no reason not to rectify this.--Astral Leap (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Astral Leap, briefly: my role is to weigh WP:AGF against WP:PACT, so for reasons which I'm not sure I wish to elaborate on (let's say WP:BEANS, etc.), I think you cutting down on reporting content opponents to various noticeboards would be best for the moment. Same with engaging user talk pages of content opponents. Just make a note on the respective article talk page — other editors can pick it up (and escalate if they so choose) from there. Thank you. El_C 16:31, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El_C, I don't understand the WP:BEANS reference here, and I mostly am not a "content opponent" here. I vaguely understand there is some big fuss about Polish history on Wikipedia now, but I mostly do not touch this topic and I am confounded by the various forces at play on Wikipedia. It seems like everything that skirts around this becomes heated. I got into this Axis Powers issue because this an issue that cuts across the Second World War (which I mostly edit in Western Europe and some Pacific (Java)). The last time I got involved with her was because of adding Aryanization to Affirmative action (and because of Zezen, a different editor, who got blocked for this. The result was me being chased around). If you say to back off, I will back off now, but I must say I don't see how complaining on the two article talk pages (Talk:Axis powers, Talk:European theatre of World War II), about miss-marking of minor edits (as a separate section?) would've been helpful here - it's a behavioral issue, maybe technical or technical competence issue, and not about the articles.--Astral Leap (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The hope is that the BEANS component isn't actually understood. Anyway, the obvious background is WP:APL and WP:ARBEE. El_C 17:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El_C, the APL thing was shouted at me by someone who looked me up on Facebook somehow, back in December during the AE. He was really pushy, and I blocked him. I am not sure I want to learn more about this, it is all very convoluted.--Astral Leap (talk) 17:09, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay...? Sorry, I'm unwilling to comment on anything which transpires on FB, in connection with this or any other ACDS topic area. El_C 17:13, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Facebook guy was not an active editor. He was very angry, not at me, and I blocked him there. I was not requesting action or comment on the Facebook approach, I was trying to say I don't see this on other topics here.--Astral Leap (talk) 17:24, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I'm unable to comment further at this time. No idea how involved you've been in... say: WP:AP2, WP:ARBPIA, WP:ARBIPA, WP:GS/COVID19, and so on. El_C 17:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I've edited any of that much, well except maybe countering the Affirmative action foolishness which maybe counts as American Politics? I might edit 2021 Dutch curfew riots some more, but I haven't edited COVID that much I think.--Astral Leap (talk) 17:31, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting some fraught topic areas as examples. Not sure about Affirmative action, because I don't know the nature of the edits in question, which could relate to a number of ACDS (or even GS) topic areas, or none. El_C 17:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction

The following sanction now applies to you:

You are indefinitely banned from interacting with GizzyCatBella (WP:IBAN), one-way.

You have been sanctioned per this ANI report and earlier AE complaint, you being the author of both, and both being on the sketchy side (to put it mildly).

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at WP:ARBEE#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

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