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== Disruptive ==

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> At this point, you are edit-warring against what many users (i.e. {{u|EkoGraf}}, {{u|Calthinus}}) have said on the talk page regarding Anadolu Agency and other Turkish state-sponsored/runned news media outlets as stand-alone claims. Also, it looks like you're [[WP:GAMING]]. You waited 24 hours and 3 minutes since your [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Turkish_military_operation_in_Afrin&diff=824699230&oldid=824698428 last revert] just to revert again. I suggest you self-revert and respect the consensus has to say about such edits. [[User:EtienneDolet|Étienne Dolet]] ([[User talk:EtienneDolet|talk]]) 23:30, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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Turkish soldiers POW or MIA

Beshogur, sources are cited right there besides "Per Turkey:" in the section's heading. Read the cited articles "Turkish Forces Target Strategic Hill Near Syria's Afrin" [1] & "Turkish Forces Target Hill in Syria" [2]. Its clearly stated per Erdogan that some soldiers are either missing or captured by the YPG, that they are working on bringing them back and that he talked to one of the wives of the captured/missing. Hope this clears it up. EkoGraf (talk) 16:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2 soldiers who were "captured" are captured bodies, not alive. Turkish Armed forces announced their names, apparently YPG has the bodies of 2 Turkish soldiers. There's a misunderstanding. Beshogur (talk) 17:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have not seen these sources about the capture of 2 soldier's bodies. Can you provide them? EkoGraf (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Look here -> "23 Ocak 2018 tarihinde Zeytin Dalı Harekât bölgesinde meydana gelen çatışmalarda şehit olan iki kahraman silah arkadaşımızın naaşlarına, bölgede çatışmaların devam etmesi ve hava koşullarının uygun olmaması sebebiyle ulaşılamamıştır." You can use Google Translate. These soldiers were announced as KIA. Beshogur (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Source doesn't say their bodies were seized by the YPG. It only says that at that time they couldn't reach the bodies due to the fighting. Plus its four days before the statement by Erdogan making it somewhat out-dated. Let's wait a few days and see if the situation clears up. If in a few days no new info surfaces about soldiers missing or captured I will personally remove that mention from the infobox. EkoGraf (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Erdogan was talking about these bodies. Of course it will be seized by YPG, otherwise is not logical. Beshogur (talk) 17:25, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You may be right, but unless what you just said is also in the sources (which it isn't) it is only our personal view of the situation, which Wikipedia doesn't take into account. In any case, I will remove it if no new info shows by Friday, I think enough time will pass by then. EkoGraf (talk) 17:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Disruptive

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. At this point, you are edit-warring against what many users (i.e. EkoGraf, Calthinus) have said on the talk page regarding Anadolu Agency and other Turkish state-sponsored/runned news media outlets as stand-alone claims. Also, it looks like you're WP:GAMING. You waited 24 hours and 3 minutes since your last revert just to revert again. I suggest you self-revert and respect the consensus has to say about such edits. Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:30, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]