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Draft of Ariel Elkin

Hi CNMall41,

You recently declined my draft for an article about Areil Elkin, and I'd like to see how I can improve the article so it gets approved.

The note you left me says 'This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject"- but I believe they do - there is a newspaper article that is explicitly about Elkin and his actions after placing 3rd - the Times of Israel is published, reliable and secondary. There is also an in depth interview that is exclusively with Elkin from Kartcom, another published, reliable and secondary. source, What else should I do? Is it adding more of these source?

I modeled this article on another F4 racer's article Tina Hausmann, whcih uses very similar sources - is it just a matter of adding more of them?

Any guidance would be appreciated Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the draft creation. It looks good but still needs to show how the subject is notable. In order to do so, there needs to be WP:SIGCOV as part of WP:GNG. The only article that would come close would be the one from Times of Israel and that looks more like promotion than independent coverage. The rest are general announcements, interviews, or race stats. For Tina Hausmann, I would not suggest using another Wikipedia as a standard for notability. Maybe for the layout and manual of style but WP:OSE specifically states that another page existing does not make something similar notable. It looks like the page for Hausmann may also be non-notable as it was previously deleted, just recently re-created, and the sourcing also does not appear to be significant coverage. Hope this helps. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. I am puzzled by "the one from Times of Israel and that looks more like promotion than independent coverage."- it is straightforward news coverage of an event, by an independent journalist working for a mainstream news outlet. Am I missing something? Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 01:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Who is the journalist? It was WP:ROUTINE news coverage and part of WP:CHURNALISM coverage also found here and here. One article states they took the information from the subject's social media account so there is nothing that shows editorial oversight. I believe the reference would be discounted heavily in a deletion discussion. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is bylined 'TOI Staff - i think this is quite common in newspaper coverage, see for example this for the Wall Street Journal [https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/whats-ahead-for-work-1e26f40c] or this from the Washington Post [https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2023/12/07/washington-post-staff-walkout-strike-labor/]

I don't see how this would be routine coverage , which is "routine news coverage of such things as announcements...Wedding announcements, sports scores, crime logs, and other items that tend to get an exemption from newsworthiness discussions should be considered routine." if the story was simply a report of the race results it would qualify as "routine" - but in this case there is a non-routine news story - a podium winner that chose not to follow protocol despite being asked to, and instead of raising his trophy, raised a helmet as a way to create awareness for hostages,

I can't comment on the other articles you found, and I don't really see what they have to do with my draft, as I did not use them, Surely you are not suggesting the Times of Israel has no editorial oversight? https://www.timesofisrael.com/about/ Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 01:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Benjamin Freidenberg

Hi, I resubmitted the draft since i believe this is a mistake, please see all sources and I can add more in Hebrew. Thanks Li-reg (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure exactly what you mean by mistake but resubmission without discussion is never a good idea. I will leave a note for reviewers if you are in fact just looking for a second opinion. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note left so that it doesn't get denied simply for not being improved. In the meantime, I would suggest to fix the referencing issues as there is content that is not supported by references which is not something you want to do when it comes to a BLP. I see it is in queue again so another reviewer should come around shortly. Cheers! --CNMall41 (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding User:JakePMM/sandbox

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Looks more like a script error as this was moving someone else's AfC submission from their sandbox to Draft:Daniel Gómez Pérez. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Uneeda Biscuits

Hi. I just draftified your article, mistaking you for a new user and reading it as promotional. Are you happy to move it to the correct title yourself? Deb (talk) 08:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb:, Thanks, Deb. Completely understand why someone would think that. The majority of the references show that the company was well known but best known for its branding and marketing. Thanks for deleting the redirect. I went a head and moved it to that title. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:TopGum Industries

Hello CNMall41,

Thank you for reviewing my draft. Unfortunately I see that you think the subject may not be important enough based on my references. However, while there are no high profiles articles about it on global media since the market itself is rather small, the company is indeed a global leader with a huge market share, a lucrative stock, and of course a lot of coverage in Hebrew media on every step they do. Given all that I do think they are worthy of the article. So I wanted to consult with you, what do you think can help the draft to get an approval?

עידו כ.ש. (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't seem to ping your UN so simply replying. I left a note on the delince with a link to the relevant referencing guideline. Please start at WP:ORGCRIT for references that would be acceptable to show notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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