User talk:Compvis

Follow consensus

Follow the consensus expressed in WT:MOSNUM binary prefixes archives and undo the recent edits you made in defiance of that consensus. Jc3s5h (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I think the consensus you're talking about, which may or may not have existed in the past, is currently inexistent. Actually the opposite consensus exists. Except for three contries (including the US), the International System of Units has been adopted unanimously worldwide. It doesn't define an exception for solid-state storage. This is the NPOV and this is where the defiance is. The SI is not a matter of consensus on Wikipedia. Compvis (talk) 00:04, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since you will not recognize Wikipedia's authority to establish its own house style, further interaction with you will take place through dispute resolution processes. Jc3s5h (talk) 00:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do recognize its authority over things that it's apt to decide, and the SI, as possibly the most widely adopted standard, is not one of those. You seem to drastically underestimate it. In addition, I do think that Wikipedia does not have the same opinion it did many years ago. Compvis (talk) 00:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We could revisit the matter, but, at the time Mebibytes and Gibibytes were never used in English-language reliable sources. If that has changed, the consensus might be revisited. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:38, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neither Wikipedia consensus nor your edits against it have changed. I've brought your latest efforts in WP:MOSNUM to WT:MOSNUM for comments, although I would be justified in blocking you, due to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Article titles and capitalisation#Final decision. Consider this a warning under that provision. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:19, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Compvis. Computing units are not part of the base units defined by SI, nor are derived units. I cannot help but view your recent edits in Template:Quantities of bits and Template:Bit and byte prefixes as an attempt to promote an unjustified point of view without a source. If you think JEDEC must have something to do with SI and their failure to comply is worth mentioning, please supply a source to that effect. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 02:18, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not even sure this is the right way to reply to someone... anyway let's try this. Hello. Actually, JEDEC has never recommended to use these prefixes, it has merely acknowledged their "common usage", right before mentioning the SI value of those, and the fact that they are deprecated. While you're right that the SI doesn't define units of information, it definitely defines prefixes, and the SI is a very important standard worldwide. That being said, I didn't assert that JEDEC has to follow the SI, but rather that it is important to mention that it doesn't follow it since it's using the exact same prefixes and since the SI is so important worldwide, and that is a fact. Actually the fact that JEDEC is still mentioned there is extremely POV for me, but unfortunately, I don't expect many people to accept its removal. So I left the column JEDEC in the hope it would be easier to get it accepted. Here's the source: JEDEC Solid State Technology Association (December 2002). "JEDEC Standard No. 100B.01 – Terms, Definitions, and Letter Symbols for Microcomputers, Microprocessors, and Memory Integrated Circuits" (PDF). p. 8. Retrieved 2010-03-07. "The definitions of kilo, giga, and mega based on powers of two are included only to reflect common usage. IEEE/ASTM SI 10-1997 states “This practice frequently leads to confusion and is deprecated.”" (Requires free registration and login.) Where should I have mentionned this source? Actually, I have more sources if needed. Compvis (talk) 04:33, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]