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Ethiopian borderlands

Hello you revised my deletion, can you look please at source 33 again? Neither page 122-123 or 158 is embedded in the link or on the page, if you go to google play bookstore the book is not there either. If you have the pages that will support the text, please provide the link? Thank you.

https://books.google.nl/books?id=zpYBD3bzW1wC&redir_esc=y https://play.google.com/store/search?q=ethiopian%20borderlands&c=booksGabiloveAdol (talk) 11:44, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Question: If a source/external link is noted with a page number, and the page number that was noted is not there, can you then remove the source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabiloveAdol (talk • contribs) 12:28, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@GabiloveAdol: The book has 489 pages. Pages 122-123 and 158 are there. Go to a good library, review WP:PAYWALL. Don't mass delete content from wikipedia articles simply because you don't feel like going or can't go to a library, or have limited internet/google-books access. @Buckshot06 and @Cordless Larry have already explained this to you, yet you keep repeating your disruptive behavior. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@GabiloveAdol: No, there is no reason to delete a source or the text it supports for the only reason that it isn't available online. Sjö (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Sjö Oke so basically everyone can claim any controversial text with a source not available online for everyone? What if i go to library,pay for it, and see that isn't true what then? Doesn't that mean that people can make all sorts of claims, in which those who want verification need to buy the books in order to verify? What is the consequence for the one who made the claim? GabiloveAdol (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Well, they can but they can be called out for it. If you see a source used and when you check the source it doesn't support the text you can remove the text or add the template Template:Verify source. I suggest that you read that page to learn more about dealing with doubtful statements and unreliable sources. If you remove the text be sure to add an edit comment explaining the reason, and if the text is restored don't edit war but start a discussion on the article's talk page. In the mean time, until you have had the opportunity to check the sources, may I suggest that you add sources and links that are reliable? Sjö (talk) 06:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sjö: FWIW, the embedded quotes and cited sources in that section have already been verified by more than one editor, per the discussion on the article's talk page. It is a wall of text on Talk:Amhara people, TLDR type, so may need time and patience to wade through it all. I love your suggestion, "may I suggest that you add sources and links that are reliable". That would indeed be constructive and welcome. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:21, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Sjö Okay good to know, thanks. 'I can't tell if you mean that i added unreliable sources or links? Which sources and links where off concern to you? Or is it just a sugesstion? GabiloveAdol (talk) 18:36, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

I didn't mean to imply that your sources were unreliable, but since you are new to editing Wikipedia you might not know about the types of sources that we accept. Sjö (talk) 07:41, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Sjö Okay thanks, i'm at least willing to add sources which can be verified online by everbody, i think it's unfair if not everyone can double check on sources, that's just my view on it. Can i please have your take on the Amhara people talk page, i asked you a question there, which was >>>> I would like to have your take on this if i may. Don't you think that the slavery and social stratification sections takes disproportionately large section of the history section, and that wikipedia readers might get an unneutral or unbalanced information? Wouldn't it be better to move the sections to the slavery in Ethiopia article, where all ethnic groups involved are mentioned, instead of adding similar sections in all ethnic groups? GabiloveAdol (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC) Currently two are in favor, one is opposing, and i would like to hear your thought about it. I don't know how to use diff yet or how to quote this directly to your page, but a admin view is much appreciated. Also people had gutted the article back in October in halve and then added these two sections, my question is mainly about neutrality and balanced information, i don't want a ethnic tribalism on wikipedia by adding similar sections on other ethnic groups pages, which are also mentioned in the sources. GabiloveAdol (talk) 04:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

I have no opinion on that. Sjö (talk) 10:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Priya Singh Paul page

Please remove the tag of Speedy deletion as there is no copyright violation anymore. The article posted in the website /http://www.priyasinghpaul.com/about-1.htm was written by me only and I have taken the article from that website and also taken down this website http://www.priyasinghpaul.com/ like you can see and it does not exist anymore. The content in the wiki page of Priya Singh Paul has no copyright issue now.

@Graeme Bartlett: confirmed too that there is no copyright violation in the Draft: Priya Singh Paul page.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Happysoul22 (talk • contribs) 10:17, 19 January 2017 (UTC) 

Most likely he didn't see it because it has been removed from the site. The copyright infringement still exist, since the text is the same (or almost the same) that was found in the deleted articles. When the text is removed from the web (except through the Wayback Machine) that doesn't remove the original author's copyright. However, I've asked Graeme to tell you how you can use your own texts on Wikipedia, even if they were not published with a free license from the beginning. Sjö (talk) 12:52, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Björn Höcke

The Youtube links are to the speech itself and specifically the location of comments within the speech. I think their inclusion is appropriate - as it is the primary source. If you want another reference: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/bjoern-hoecke-rede-offenbart-gesinnung-kolumne-von-sascha-lobo-a-1130551.html Nephron  T|C 16:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)