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== Also... ==

Since you've been so helpful with getting through all my GANs, including recently [[Thomas F. Mulledy]], you may be interested to know that I've nominated it at FAC. If weighing in on its (stalled) nomination is something that interests you, it'd be much appreciated, especially given your familiarity with the article. Thanks, as always. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] 03:34, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
:On a related note, you also reviewed [[1969 Curaçao uprising]]. Unfortunately, the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1969 Curaçao uprising/archive1|FAC]] for this article may be closed due to a lack of responses soon. Any chance I could talk you into reviewing the nomination? That would also be very much appreciated.--[[User:Carabinieri|Carabinieri]] ([[User talk:Carabinieri|talk]]) 15:42, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
::I have some background on the subject and can try to take a look next week. Regards, [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:38, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== real crimes ==

Hello. Can you recall what the deleted tweet on 'real crimes' stated? '''[[User:Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">starship</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">.paint</span>]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|talk]])''' 02:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:Never mind. Found it! [https://web.archive.org/web/20190614230522/https:/twitter.com/WikiWomenInRed/status/1139441443477577728] '''[[User:Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">starship</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">.paint</span>]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|talk]])''' 02:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I have filed a related statement at ArbCom: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Statement by Starship.paint]]. '''[[User:Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">starship</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Starship.paint|<span style="color:#512888">.paint</span>]] ([[User talk:Starship.paint|talk]])''' 03:43, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

== Main page ==

Completely out of whack, includes targets which are redirects, and worse. Dreadful. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 08:12, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is about being a safe space now, where pointing out errors is harassment. Doesn’t bode well for you! [[User:Mr Ernie|Mr Ernie]] ([[User talk:Mr Ernie|talk]]) 08:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm now struggling with the idea that there are some new "laws" out there and they can be summarily applied to anyone, on a whim, with no appeal and no definition of what the actual infraction(s) was/were. Very reminiscent of a police state. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 08:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Joyce wanked off, two years running. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:23, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::U-shape? U-bend more like. More lies. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:37, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::French engine, '''''bad''''' translation. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:40, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Canada, oh Canada. You've ALREADY BEEN TAGGED. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:41, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Completely out of whack again. Do they never learn? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 07:58, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
:Which way is it out of whack? Is an extra DYK needed? I'm away from home this weekend with no laptop so can't see the full browser view. Interesting to see the "cryptic crossword" error reports above BTW... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 08:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
::It's better now. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 09:38, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

[[Marion Underwood]] utter bollocks. Firstly the study was in 2013 (!!), secondly for teens see "ninth graders", thirdly this is an isolated study in one university in one state in one country of the world. Can the bollocks, speak the truth for a change. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 16:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Clueless? ==

Thanks for your input at ITN. I had no idea why you implied that I considered you "clueless" in several comments, as I don't recall ever calling you that. Then I checked my recent comments at DYK talk, and realized that you may have misinterpreted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know&diff=898989706&oldid=898988962#Consensus_requested this post] as referring to you. Just want to clarify that that's not the case. The incidence I had in mind was my DYK hook for [[Zhang Xi (PRC politician)]], which was changed by an admin in response to a complaint at ERRORS, and an egregious error was introduced to the main page. It was a few years ago and I don't even remember which admin it was or who made the clueless complaint (probably an IP), but I don't think it was you. Although I don't appreciate the tone of some of your complaints, I can't recall any of them resulting in major errors. Cheers, -[[User:Zanhe|Zanhe]] ([[User talk:Zanhe|talk]]) 00:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

== Persistent mediocrity ==

"giant" never used even in the target. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 13:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

"successfully finishing" success is in the eye of the beholder. It's just "completing" really, which, after all, speaks to CONCISION, the lack of which which ''agitates'' some. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 13:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Nicene Creed was ''adopted'' OTD, not necessarily ''presented''. That first council last months. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 13:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Some panthers prefer ''italics''. But not ''all'' the time. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 14:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Which on of those two pictured is which?? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 14:13, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

One assumes the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup was moved "before" it started on this day. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 15:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Buhlschaft, what ultra-bizarre linking, and why is Paramour capitalised?? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 15:14, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

==Indenting==
...yes, the indenting in that section sucked and I tried, repeatedly, to get it right before hitting save in frustration. I honestly thought you were replying to me. Anyway, in addition to the "thanks" to your reply, I just wanted to drop you a belated note here to acknowledge I appreciated your reply. Cheers, [[User:Victoriaearle|Victoria]] ([[User talk:Victoriaearle|tk]]) 15:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{U|Victoriaearle|Victoria}}, no problem whatsoever, thanks for your note. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 15:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

== THE PAGE IS TOO LONG! ==

Admin criterion 1: if a page is too long, don't deal with the issue, remove the issue; after all, "the page is too long". [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 22:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

== Main page redux ==
Poor old Canadian nurse isn't having her usage of First World War respected. Disgusting. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 12:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:Nujeen Mustafa has suddenly "traveled" even though the lead of her article clearly states she was notable for "travelling" (i.e. not traveling). Did you know, this isn't American Wikipedia? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:18, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Tank tank tank ..... [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 17:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:<small>And contradicts [[Tanks of the United States]] ({{tq|On 22 December 1941, the 192nd Tank Battalion became the first American tanks to engage enemy armor in tank to tank combat}})&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 07:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)</small>
::{{u|Iridescent}}, can you kindly pull the hook? I have Hunnicutt's book - ''Stuart: A History of the American Light Tank, Voume 1'' and Pg. 395 clearly mentions that the 192nd Tank Battalion became the first American troops to engage in tank to tank combat. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style="color: red">&#x222F;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span>]][[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup>]] 07:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Standard level of QC I'm afraid. We have to wait until it embarrasses the encyclopedia for a few hours before we act. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 07:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::: I'm not touching the main page any more. If our insect overlords want to claim that pointing out the stream of errors that spews from DYK constitutes "harassment", then T&S can fucking well clean up the mess themselves.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 10:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::[[Template:Did you know nominations/149th Armor Regiment|Promoted by Cymhiraeth]], shocked, shocked, I tell you.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 10:10, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Indeed. The only problem leaving it to the insects is that literally nothing will get done. It's not ''their'' community remember? And they don't give two fucks about content. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 10:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::Cymhiraeth seems to be a constant in all dubious DYKs, (though over here, it was going by poor quality sources to support an over-ordinary claim) :-(
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::::::In the meanwhile, I have removed the inaccurate stuff from the article. And, ERRORS seem to be a desolate venue. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style="color: red">&#x222F;</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span>]][[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup>]] 10:59, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Well as you all know, I'm not at liberty to discuss this in any detail, so I'll wish you all the best luck in the world. I'll just keep up the "nit picking", just when I can be bothered, rather than with any real dedication to the project, since the WMF have completely destroyed that. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 11:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::IIRC Cwmhiraeth is only the second worst offender, but I suspect naming the worst offender will have a detrimental effect on one's wiki-life-expectancy. Regarding leaving it to the insects, I have no problem with allowing the grey goo to take over; unless and until their war against intelligence starts damaging wikipedia's reputation, and thus the flow of cash, they'll continue to close their eyes and pretend the train is moving.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 11:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Church doesn't say "refined" it says it has "clean lines". [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Boat caption: italics people, italics. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

"and 70 to 300 injured." awful. Just go with what the article says in its lead "at least 70". [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:40, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

"QUEEN ELIZABETH"? Jesus. She's not Queen Elizabeth, she's [[Elizabeth II]]. [[Elizabeth I of England|If anyone is, '''this''' is Queen Elizabeth]]. Gadzooks. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 07:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:Fixed by Dweller. Oddly, the [[Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Maryon|original nom]] has "the Queen", which is fine. Someone changed it to "Queen Elizabeth" thinking we wouldn't know which Queen it was? Bizarre.-- [[User:Pawnkingthree|Pawnkingthree]] ([[User talk:Pawnkingthree|talk]]) 12:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::Well, when I was at school we sang a specially-written song to the tune of "Come and join the celebration", which was titled "Queen Elizabeth's Sixty Today". So I don't think it's entirely wrong to use that terminology, but hey ho. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 13:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== This is _not_ American Wikipedia &c.==

Poor old [[Richard Haine|Dickie Haine]], once again, and for the third time in two sets, has been Americanised with the dreadful "World War II" (the sequel) nonsense. It doesn't respect the target article, once again. I wish people would do something about this rather than pass this kind of thing to the main page. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:48, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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:In fairness, "World War II" is now accepted usage in Britain as well; the [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/medals-campaigns-descriptions-and-eligibility Ministry of Defence], the [https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/ways-to-give/75th-anniversary-of-d-day British Legion], the [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/world-war-ii/ National Archives] and the [https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1500096409 Imperial War Museum] all use it and there's [[:File:UK-2014-London-Monument to the Women of World War II (1).jpg|a large memorial to "World War II" almost directly outside Downing Street]], and the world has not come to an end.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 19:54, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::But we do respect target article usage. Unless it's not American. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::Oh, and none of those organisations are consistent in their press, e.g. [https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/second-world-war Imperial War Museum], [https://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/remembrance/remembrance-events/d-day-75 British Legion] etc, and indeed other organisations are better at being less "sequel"-based, like [https://www.cwgc.org/history-and-archives/second-world-war the CWGC]. No-one said the world would come to an end with this kind of vulgar usage, but at least respect the target article usage. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::STILL NOT FIXED MINIONS. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::OH, and it was even mentioned in the fucking nomination template! Are you all just kidding now???? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::::STILL NOT FIXED. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 07:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


Why on EARTH is "Solicitor" capitalised in that set? Anyone? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:And why did "in the" suddenly become the peculiar "of the"??? Wow, just wow. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 18:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Indian Prime Minister hook is sea of blue. Plus looks like just Twitter (which should be capitalised in the article), not generic "social media accounts". [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 19:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

"performed The Twin Miracle " The should not be capitalised. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 19:06, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::STILL NOT FIXED MINIONS. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::STILL NOT FIXED. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 07:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Without an opinion yet, but that would contest the article title, which will still be there tomorrow. I assume these matters are raised in the queues. [[User talk:Cygnis insignis|cygnis insignis]] 08:09, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::No it wouldn't. We don't say "and then The Beatles did blah", we say "and then the Beatles did blah". And no, these matters aren't raised anywhere because these matters are summarily ignored. So zero from two there. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 08:44, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::: The definite article ought to be lowercase, yes, I agree, well picked up. Please excuse the misunderstanding, will try to help where I can. [[User talk:Cygnis insignis|cygnis insignis]] 17:28, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Turns out there are several US Open Pool Championships. It '''must''' be specified he won '''''STRAIGHT''''' variant, i.e. [[U.S. Open Straight Pool Championship]]. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 19:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:format tweak, maybe underline rather than italic at <code>straight</code> it undermines the emphatic uprightness. [[User talk:Cygnis insignis|cygnis insignis]] 19:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::Good point. I never really thought about it when I made the hook, as the whole point is that Ortmann was the first European to win any US championship. (There was only 2 at the time, but there is like 6 now. The next guy to win was [[Mika Immonen]] in the 2000s.) Is it something I can change?
::On a weird note, the tournament name is the US Open 14.1 Championship, but everyone calls it the straight pool championship, as trying to explain 14.1 to someone isn't the easiest. Whether that particular year was called 14.1 or straight I have no idea. Best Wishes, '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 19:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== FLC ==

Hey TRM. Care to leave some comments over at my current FLC, [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Coldplay/archive1]]. Currently has two supports but has been sitting at that for almost a month now. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. – '''[[User:Zmbro|zmbro]]''' <sub>([[User talk:Zmbro|talk]])</sub> 04:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

== Thought I'd ping you again ==

Hi Rambling Man, I don't know if you're still keen on getting messages from time to time about articles I've nominated at GAN, which could always use a set of reviewer's eyes. If you are, I've just nominated [[Charles H. Stonestreet]]. Please feel free to give it a look or not, whatever you please. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] 01:40, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
:Sure thing. I'd take a look if I get a chance. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 05:21, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

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