User talk:Tyrone Jahir

Non neutral information

Information on wikipedia must be neutral SpaceExplorer12 (talk) 22:27, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The information added is entirely neutral. Additionally, it's a more accurate reflection of the sources cited on the page.

John Tooby

The policies laid out at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons say that information on a BLP must be referenced with a reliable source. Where did you learn that John Tooby had died? _signed,Willondon (talk) 19:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Announced by respected close friends and several obituary sites. Tyrone Jahir (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a link for one of those obituary sites? The Wikipedia policies are quite clear and firm: a claim of death on a biography of a living person must come with a reliable source confirming it. _signed,Willondon (talk) 15:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, announced by respected close friends https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1723060810958741764. Though, I believe I got the exact date incorrect. Should be the 10th, not 11th. Tyrone Jahir (talk) 15:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't consider Twitter to be a reliable source (see WP:RSPTWITTER). It would definitely not be accepted for reporting someone's death. Is there an obituary in a newspaper or other reliable source? _signed,Willondon (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added the report again after finding two sources. The English one could be unreliable as the site has no links to "Home" or "About Us" to say where the information comes from, or if there is any editorial control. There is no information about the author of the obit, but they authored many articles on that site, so it doesn't seem to be a user generated content site, where a fly-by poster can just say someone died. Also, even if they copied the obit from somewhere, somebody went to some effort to piece together an account of his life. The other source is in Spanish, but it is from the website of a university that he was affiliated with, so I consider that a reliable source if the first one isn't. Thanks for helping keep Wikipedia up to date. Cheers. _signed,Willondon (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I changed the date of death to November 9. That's what the university source reported, and the other source didn't say. _signed,Willondon (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, Twitter was never the source. Steven Pinker is the source. The fact that the information was conveyed through Twitter is irrelevant. Unless you're going to seriously argue that a highly respected academic would lie about the death of his friend, then he is a fine source to use. Glad to see you corrected your mistake. Tyrone Jahir (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem, I was spending the time to correct your mistakes anyway, so it was no extra trouble. _signed,Willondon (talk) 17:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Love you buddy, stay safe out there. Tyrone Jahir (talk) 22:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

April 2024

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Reverse racism. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

Accusing another editor of having "racist" opinions is a violation of WP:NPA and WP:Civility. NightHeron (talk) 12:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I made no "personal attacks" against any editor because I made no claims about another editor's character. That is why I pointed out the opinion as racist, and not the person. In other words, I "commented on content, not contributors."

Accusing another editor of having a racist opinion is certainly NOT a violation of WP: NPA or WP: Civility. "Racist" is a word with a clear definition that I used to (quite accurately) describe the editor's opinion.

If you want to assume that when someone shares an opinion that happens to be racist, they must certainly be a racist person at heart, and therefore criticizing a racist opinion is actually a character attack on the person who shared it, fine; don't include me in your personal heuristic. Tyrone Jahir (talk) 13:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Hell you didn't. Probably the most egregious personal attack I have received in my 16 years here. I demand that you strike any and all suggestions that I have racist opinions. O3000, Ret. (talk) 14:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]