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*'''Delete''' No references, not even on his discography. Violates the policy on notability. Unless there is a previous version to revert to, I'm sticking with delete from now on. [[User:Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">Minima</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">c</font>]]<font color="#002BB8"></font> ([[User talk:Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">talk</font>]]) 05:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' No references, not even on his discography. Violates the policy on notability. Unless there is a previous version to revert to, I'm sticking with delete from now on. [[User:Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">Minima</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">c</font>]]<font color="#002BB8"></font> ([[User talk:Minimac|<font color="#002BB8">talk</font>]]) 05:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
*While I can always understand the concerns of legitimacy and detail for any Wikipedia entry, I do believe that in this case, the person putting up both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto's pages for AfD completely wrong is both counts, and frankly is abusing the ability of people to edit Wikipedia entries. A quick search of the web seems to confirm he has a pattern of just this sort of abuse, with little or no real justification. As to the level of notability of either Ryu Goto or Midori Goto, this is not subject to debate. Both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto are among the top classical violinists of their respective generations, with numerous CDs, DVDs, endorsements and major concerts and tours to their credit, not to mention a large, growing following of fans. Arbitrary AfDs by people with an agenda beyond good editing of Wikipedia articles are to the detriment of the general public, and to the detriment of those of us attempting to ensure the honest, true and legitimate posting of basic biographies of known public figures.{{unsigned|Disconic}}
*While I can always understand the concerns of legitimacy and detail for any Wikipedia entry, I do believe that in this case, the person putting up both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto's pages for AfD completely wrong is both counts, and frankly is abusing the ability of people to edit Wikipedia entries. A quick search of the web seems to confirm he has a pattern of just this sort of abuse, with little or no real justification. As to the level of notability of either Ryu Goto or Midori Goto, this is not subject to debate. Both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto are among the top classical violinists of their respective generations, with numerous CDs, DVDs, endorsements and major concerts and tours to their credit, not to mention a large, growing following of fans. Arbitrary AfDs by people with an agenda beyond good editing of Wikipedia articles are to the detriment of the general public, and to the detriment of those of us attempting to ensure the honest, true and legitimate posting of basic biographies of known public figures.{{unsigned|Disconic}}
**Whatever you read on the web on these other websites that you talk about '''is not true'''. You were adding a copy-pasted portion of Ryu Goto's biography [http://www.ryugoto.com/eng/biography.html from his website] in all of your edits to the article that were not removing the AFD tag or other tags on the page. Neither Ryu nor Midori are notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. The fact that their pages have remained on this project for so long is an oversight on our part.—[[User:Ryulong|<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryulong|<font color="Gold">竜龙</font>]]) 06:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
**Whatever you read about me on these other websites that you talk about '''is not true'''. And you were adding a copy-pasted portion of Ryu Goto's biography [http://www.ryugoto.com/eng/biography.html from his website] (all of it in fact) in all of your edits to the article that were not removing the AFD tag or other tags on the page. Neither Ryu nor Midori are notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. The fact that their pages have remained on this project for so long is an oversight on our part.—[[User:Ryulong|<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryulong|<font color="Gold">竜龙</font>]]) 06:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

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Ryu Goto

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Two years ago this article was kept at AFD. Since then, there has really been no progress in the page other than intermittent updates of the subject's discography. This page has been unreferenced for over two years, with one reference being his website and the other being a news article announcing a performance of his. I do not see this qualifying for WP:MUSIC or our general notability guidelines. In addition, most of the page was a copyvio off of his official website (and is repeatedly being added back by a user). The most notability he has is by being the brother of Midori, but her notability is questionable and I have put her page up for AFD.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:32, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No references, not even on his discography. Violates the policy on notability. Unless there is a previous version to revert to, I'm sticking with delete from now on. Minimac (talk) 05:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I can always understand the concerns of legitimacy and detail for any Wikipedia entry, I do believe that in this case, the person putting up both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto's pages for AfD completely wrong is both counts, and frankly is abusing the ability of people to edit Wikipedia entries. A quick search of the web seems to confirm he has a pattern of just this sort of abuse, with little or no real justification. As to the level of notability of either Ryu Goto or Midori Goto, this is not subject to debate. Both Ryu Goto and Midori Goto are among the top classical violinists of their respective generations, with numerous CDs, DVDs, endorsements and major concerts and tours to their credit, not to mention a large, growing following of fans. Arbitrary AfDs by people with an agenda beyond good editing of Wikipedia articles are to the detriment of the general public, and to the detriment of those of us attempting to ensure the honest, true and legitimate posting of basic biographies of known public figures.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Disconic (talkcontribs)
    • Whatever you read about me on these other websites that you talk about is not true. And you were adding a copy-pasted portion of Ryu Goto's biography from his website (all of it in fact) in all of your edits to the article that were not removing the AFD tag or other tags on the page. Neither Ryu nor Midori are notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. The fact that their pages have remained on this project for so long is an oversight on our part.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]