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====[[:Category:Women of Pakistan]]==== |
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This category was deleted when its parent [[:Category:Women by nationality]] was deleted. While it may not make sense to have a "Category: Women of Fooland" for every country, it clearly does make sense in the case of Pakistan, where relatively few women become famous. For this reason, among others, there was no consensus to delete after discussion on CfD. The discussion page [[Category talk:Women of Pakistan]] is mostly supportive of keeping the category, and therefore I request that the earlier decision be sustained, and the category restored.[[User:Stanwatch|Stanwatch]] 19:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''Overturn''' Deletion of a parent category should not automatically qualify children for deletion. While the aforementioned [[:Category:Women of Fooland]] is obviously a bad idea, this category would be useful to anyone researching the status of women in Pakistan. We do have precedent for categorizing women because of their notable circumstances: [[:Category:Spouses_of_national_leaders]], [[:Category:Native_American_women]], [[:Category:Influential_pre-modern_women]] and [[:Category:Women_of_the_Victorian_era]]. Hopefully we can avoid the slippery slope of [[:Category:Women of Fooland]]... [[User:Dgies|Dgies]] 03:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment:''' Holy smokes, deleted categories are hard to look at. Anyways, I've found the previous CFD [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 7#Women by nationality and subcategories|here]], and I've notified [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] of this DRV. --[[User:Deathphoenix|Deathphoenix]] [[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''ʕ''']] 16:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Overturn''' i, as well, fear the slippery slope, but the special social circumstances related to being a woman in Pakistan does warrant, in my opinion, special attention. [[User:Themindset|Themindset]] 17:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Overturn and list on CfD'''. This ma be notable enough by itself, so perhaps listing it on CfD by itself may get a better consensus on its own merits rather than being attached to its parent category. --[[User:Deathphoenix|Deathphoenix]] [[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''ʕ''']] 20:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment'''. Here's some history -- the category has been on CfD before, and there was never a consensus to delete: |
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**September/October 2004: Nominated to CfD, discussion petered out without consensus[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACategories_for_discussion&diff=6915751&oldid=6915716] and was copied to [[Category talk:Women of Pakistan]]. |
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**June 2005: [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 June 15]]: The result of the debate was '''no consensus''' (keep) |
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**June 2006: [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 3]]: The result of the debate was '''Rename''' (to [[:Category:Pakistani women]]) [[User:Stanwatch|Stanwatch]] 21:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment'''. When I closed the debate as delete, there was a clear consensus to do so. I believe there was only one keep and one 'delete or rename' along with one delete if some moving was done. The rest of the votes were to delete. There were some questions about this subcat, but it was not more then a handful of those who participated in that discusion. This was an umbrella nomination for 'Women by nationality and subcategories' so it also applied to the children. The suggestion above to restore this one then list on CfD might be a logical move. If it passes, then there would be a reason why it is being kept if someone recommends this for deleteion in the future. With a keep CfD after the umbrella nomination, it would be clear that this is an accepable exception avoiding future deletion consideration. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] 22:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Overturn'''. Ditto theMindset. This category adds value to Wikipedia and to me that is the bottom line and what is of greatest importance. [[User:Nisanu|Nisanu]] 02:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC) |
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