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-==== [[Real Synthetic Audio]] ====
-:AFD: [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Real_Synthetic_Audio]]
-I think the main beef with the people who voted for the deletion was that its "longest running" claim wasn't substantiated.  The show has been running since 1998 [http://web.archive.org/web/19980203161841/http://www.djtodd.com/audio.htm], which predates even most commercial radio station's streaming web feed.  I can ask the owner of the net radio show to provide hit counters and logs if you want proof.  It probably doesn't prove that it is the 'longest running' net radio show, but certainly proves that it was a pioneer show and still gets 15000 listeners every month, which is on par with or better than many college radio stations that are listed on wiki.
-I think removing the unprovable claim and letting the article live would have been a less drastic solution. -- [[User:Flabreque|Flabreque]] 23:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Endorse Deletion'''  Valid AFD.  The AFD discussion evidences no reason to keep the article other than that unproven claim.  The potential proof that was alluded to above would constitute original research.  Get that published in an independent [[WP:RS|reliable source]], then write a new article citing the sources.  [[User:GRBerry|GRBerry]] 13:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Endorse deletion''' Valid AfD.  As for the "longest running" claim, I'd say it's dubious at least.  The [[Internet radio]] article lists examples going back tp 1993, with a number of commercial stations beginning in 1994, so the idea that it took all the way until 1998 for the "longest running" show to get started strikes me as tough to believe.  I'm no expert in the subject and cannot give a definitive answer, but as is often said here, extraodinary claims require extraordinary proof. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 19:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
-**First, to both of you, thanks for clearing up the fact that even without the "claim", this article would not have been notable and still be subject to deletion.
-**Secondly, to GRBerry, I'm not sure I understand your comment about the original research.  Is linking to Archive.org considered original research?  Not a reliable source?
-**Finally, I can't help but wonder why you used that tone with your last sentence.  I know written text doesn't convey emotions very well, but it looks like you are telling me to take a flying leap. -- [[User:Flabreque|Flabreque]] 21:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Disclosure:  I am neither the author of the article, nor the owner of the net radio show in question.
-*'''Endorse deletion'''. Valid AfD. Please read [[WP:RS]], and do not get offended by people's tone - comments here are simply curt and efficient, not meant to be offensive. [[User:Themindset|Themindset]] 19:35, 25 September 2006 (UTC)