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-====[[Erik Möller]]====
-This article has been deleted due to non-notability, and deleted again due to CSD G4. However, it was recreated again after he got a position on the Board, and it's common conjecture that being on the Trustee of a notable corporation means you can get an article. However, [[Michael E. Davis]], where Board member Michael Davis's article would go, redirects to the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] article. However, Möller is also a published author, and arguably "made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field." (see [[WP:BIO]]). I am not sure how this should be treated (so count me as a '''neutral'''), so let's decide once and for all ([[WP:CCC|for now]]) how to treat this article. —[[User:Messedrocker|<font color="blue"><code>this is messedrocker</code></font>]] [[User talk:Messedrocker|<font color="blue"><code>(talk)</code></font>]] 22:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
-*<s>'''Send to AFD'''</s> as I can't find a previous AFD. [[User:Naconkantari|<font color="red">Nacon</font><font color="gray">'''kantari'''</font>]] 22:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
-** [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erik Moeller|First AFD under title "Erik Moeller"]]: deleted due to non-notability. [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erik Möller|Second AFD under title "Erik Möller"]]: deleted as recreation (CSD G4) under a different title. —[[User:Messedrocker|<font color="blue"><code>this is messedrocker</code></font>]] [[User talk:Messedrocker|<font color="blue"><code>(talk)</code></font>]] 22:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
-***Thanks, I now change to '''Keep Redirected and Protect''' [[User:Naconkantari|<font color="red">Nacon</font><font color="gray">'''kantari'''</font>]] 00:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-****Things have changed considerably since those AfDs.  It'd be improper to judge the consensus now considering his status then. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 00:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-***** They have not, however, changed since the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review&diff=58794210&oldid=58793709 last DRV discussion] on this article.  [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] <small>[[User talk:Rossami|(talk)]]</small> 05:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Overturn''' and send to AfD.  I was waiting for [[User:Pilotguy]] to get back (as he's on semi-wikibreak) and ask him first, but this should, at the very least, <s>get an AfD</s> get an AfD due to his new status. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 22:30, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''keep redirected''' seems to be the sensible option. --[[User talk:Doc glasgow|Doc]] 22:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Overturn''' and send to AFD. Circumstances have changed substantially since the last AFD. Redirecting might still be the most sensible option, but I see no reason for the redirect to stay protected. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 06:46, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Send to AfD'''. Circumstances have changed sufficiently to merit an AfD hearing. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] 09:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Relist''' per the others.  I see no reason to be too bureaucratic here.  Also, the prior AfDs were plain vote counts with no discussion whatsoever.  I couldn't even tell why the original article was deleted from the debate.  [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 14:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Keep redirected'''; the only thing that changed is his position on the board, so a redirect to the foundation is appropriate. ([[User:Paolo Liberatore|Liberatore]], [[User talk:Paolo Liberatore|2006]]). 23:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Relist''' [[WP:CCC|changed circumstances]] make a new AfD appropriate.  [[User:Eluchil404|Eluchil404]] 02:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''relist''' so that it can be discussed now with recent changes [[User:Yuckfoo|Yuckfoo]] 06:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''relist''' Per many others with new information. --[[User:NuclearUmpf|NuclearUmpf]] 16:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''relist''' - I created the article. I wasn't aware it had existed before and had been deleted, however I consider that irrelevant since he wasn't a board member then. The two other elected board members, [[Florence Nibart-Devouard]] and [[Angela Beesley]], have biographical articles. Möller is, as already pointed out, also a published author, developer of the MediaWiki software and well-known wiki enthusiast (also outside of Wikipedia), and thus clearly notable. [[User:Wolfram|Wolfram]] 23:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Relist''' on AfD per the above comments.  [[User:RFerreira|RFerreira]] 22:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
-*'''Keep deleted'''.  [[WP:ASR|Nothing external to WikiMedia]] has changed since the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review&diff=58794210&oldid=58793709 last time] this was nominated to DRV.  Both of the AFD nominations were made by the subject of the article.  As I noted in the prior DRV, the editor in question is a very experienced and highly respected editor with a deep understanding of our policies, standards and traditions. If even ''he'' argues to delete the page, we should trust his judgment.  [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] <small>[[User talk:Rossami|(talk)]]</small> 05:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)