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*'''Strong keep''' first, this interview in [[Sun-Sentinel]] which the nomination is trying to dismiss as if it's only about her fitness routine in fact mentions that she is in fact a [[Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders|Miami Dolphins Cheerleader]]s, it's even in the title, so how can you say that there is no third-party verification that she has been a cheerleader. It's also third-party reliable verification that she's appeared in twice in [[Maxim (magazine)]]. You're right that the cameo appearances link to YouTube, which alone isn't enough, but it does imply that she has in fact appeared in commericals and music videos and I even found [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fybjf-G8rE4 this] which may be just another YouTube link, but who's to say that didn't air on television or a similar form of media? Granted, I can't prove that this Miami Dolphins video did in fact appear on television, but it's material that does suggest significant ties to the [[Miami Dolphins]] even years after she retired from cheerleading for them. [[Zap2it]] is also more than just average Joe blog, so again, why does it seem like it's getting belitted as a source. Are we going to belittle [[TV Guide]] and [[Entertainment Weekly]] as reliable sources too? Also, don't say that they are merely interviews that don't verify anything in the Wikipedia article because as I explained with the [[Sun-Sentinel]] source, these interviews are reliable source coverage that the Wikipedia article claims are in fact true. Then there's Survivor where she appeared in not one but two seasons [[Survivor: Nicaragua]] and [[Survivor: Caramoan]] and went pretty far in both seasons.--[[User:DrumstickJuggler|DrumstickJuggler]] ([[User talk:DrumstickJuggler|talk]]) 19:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''' first, this interview in [[Sun-Sentinel]] which the nomination is trying to dismiss as if it's only about her fitness routine in fact mentions that she is in fact a [[Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders|Miami Dolphins Cheerleader]]s, it's even in the title, so how can you say that there is no third-party verification that she has been a known cheerleader for an obviously notable sports team? It's also third-party reliable verification that she's appeared in twice in [[Maxim (magazine)]]. You're right that the cameo appearances link to YouTube, which alone isn't enough, but it does imply that she has in fact appeared in commericals and music videos and I even found [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fybjf-G8rE4 this] which may be just another YouTube link, but who's to say that didn't air on television or a similar form of media? Granted, I can't prove that this Miami Dolphins video did in fact appear on television, but it's material that does suggest significant ties to the [[Miami Dolphins]] even years after she retired from cheerleading for them. [[Zap2it]] is also more than just average Joe blog, so again, why does it seem like it's getting belitted as a source. Are we going to belittle [[TV Guide]] and [[Entertainment Weekly]] as reliable sources too? Also, don't say that they are merely interviews that don't verify anything in the Wikipedia article because as I explained with the [[Sun-Sentinel]] source, these interviews are reliable source coverage that the Wikipedia article claims are in fact true. Then there's Survivor where she appeared in not one but two seasons [[Survivor: Nicaragua]] and [[Survivor: Caramoan]] and went pretty far in both seasons.--[[User:DrumstickJuggler|DrumstickJuggler]] ([[User talk:DrumstickJuggler|talk]]) 19:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Brenda Lowe

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As of date of nom, there are 9 references. Two are YouTubes. One is a self-published source--her own website. One is the CBS website, promoting its own show. One is an interview in a newspaper (Sun-Sentinel) about her fitness routine. One is an interview in TV Guide. Two are interviews in an online blog, zap2it. The ninth is an article in Entertainment Weekly, where she is mentioned only briefly. I don't think any of these establish notability as in-depth independent reliable sources per WP:BASIC. There is also a claim that she won a beauty pageant--what pageant? Did that receive any media coverage? There is also a claim that she was a cheerleader--did her performance as a cheerleader receive any media coverage? This is a clear fail of WP:BASIC and it also fails WP:ENTERTAINER. With that said, maybe someone can find better sources—I looked and could not. Logical Cowboy (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep first, this interview in Sun-Sentinel which the nomination is trying to dismiss as if it's only about her fitness routine in fact mentions that she is in fact a Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders, it's even in the title, so how can you say that there is no third-party verification that she has been a known cheerleader for an obviously notable sports team? It's also third-party reliable verification that she's appeared in twice in Maxim (magazine). You're right that the cameo appearances link to YouTube, which alone isn't enough, but it does imply that she has in fact appeared in commericals and music videos and I even found this which may be just another YouTube link, but who's to say that didn't air on television or a similar form of media? Granted, I can't prove that this Miami Dolphins video did in fact appear on television, but it's material that does suggest significant ties to the Miami Dolphins even years after she retired from cheerleading for them. Zap2it is also more than just average Joe blog, so again, why does it seem like it's getting belitted as a source. Are we going to belittle TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly as reliable sources too? Also, don't say that they are merely interviews that don't verify anything in the Wikipedia article because as I explained with the Sun-Sentinel source, these interviews are reliable source coverage that the Wikipedia article claims are in fact true. Then there's Survivor where she appeared in not one but two seasons Survivor: Nicaragua and Survivor: Caramoan and went pretty far in both seasons.--DrumstickJuggler (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]